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NA2 balance pass, what would you want to see?

Discussion in 'General' started by csjarrat, Sep 4, 2021.

  1. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    So, if you were able to request minor tweaks (not whole new profiles or major shakeup) to na2 factions, what would you do?
    For me, I'd give aida at least camo-1 use. Also, add her to ikari.
    For ikari, I'd love to see a proper wildcard set up rather than the old wording.
    Maybe a druze wildcard or something?
    An ABH wildcard maybe? It would certainly make them more useful
     
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  2. AssaultUnicorn

    AssaultUnicorn KTS is the best unit

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    Give people a reason to bring the Lt. Arslan in DBS over a regular Druze/Brawler?
     
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  3. dijit

    dijit Active Member

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    Only really just getting started with DBS, but a reason to take Arslan would be nice - nwi and shock immune seems like a good start. Also something to put Druze fore and centre in DBS lists (lose a point or two), and since druze have viral pistols, why not a viral sniper or viral rifle profile? Druze also seem to pay a heavy swc tax, like 1.5 for a hmg- whats that about?
     
  4. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    - Contender and Flash Pulse [+1B] for Shikami
    - Anything to help Arslan (new sculpt as well please)
    - Add colonel Ikari as a named Tanko/Daiyokai
     
  5. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    'Tis a match made in hell, now I'll have Dango San Kyodai playing in my head for the rest of the evening.
    For anyone else I just made hear it, you're welcome. Misery loves company.
     
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  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see a Druze heavy infantry, partly because it seems like it would be on brand for the sectorial, partly to increase the variance inside the DBZ sectorial, and partly because there seem to be a few good sectorials under the surface of these unnecessary "play with your toys in different ways" weirdness going on

    (edit to finish this unfinished sentence...) and adding a more proper unit to take the place where other factions' iconic units are currently used would go a long way to improve both the balance of these sectorials and that of the ones those units are borrowed from.
     
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  7. csjarrat

    csjarrat Well-Known Member

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    Also, karakuri in ikari feel weirdly tacked on. It'd be cool to have them feel a bit more part of the faction with some link options
     
  8. Time Bandit

    Time Bandit Vulnerability (Total)

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    1. Triad of some kind for longarms in their native spiral habitat

    2. A tweak for white co. who seem a bit cray.

    3. Saito gets his second profile in JSA

    4. Securitate in FoCo get some kind of spice to their core. Currently they might as well not have fireteam core at all.

    5. Wildcarda for Ikari - preferably a new character!
     
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  9. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    I'd like a few more tohaa units in spiral. Leave out the Makaul, Sukuel and Gao Rael (hell, just the Makaul even) and you could probably export the rest of the range and still have a drastically different faction from OG tohaa
     
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  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I'm not really sure if NA2 needs much. Star Co, Druze and Dahshat are getting Fiddler soon and then some get the MBH too.

    Ikari needs another Lt. option. But then again the fact they need it, it makes them more interesting.

    I was thinking of a Brawler-like HI. Brawler, in that it's available to several NA2 forces. But Druze I think could really use an HI or HI+NWI version of themselves. I think they could get a core of that and others Duo or Haris.
     
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  11. Skjarr

    Skjarr EI Mouthpiece

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    I have a suspicion its the X-Visor that does it. Muyibs in Haqq pay 1.5 for spitfire and HRL and they both have x-visors. Must tip it over some threshold.
     
  12. Cthulhu363

    Cthulhu363 "It's a bug in the document"

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    Lt Daiokai (sp?) and/or Al Fasid and a CoC option for Ikari.
     
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    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I forgot that I'd like to see some more alien mercs. Bring back the Exrah! But it would be cool to see some more Tohaa in human NA2 armies. Taagma and Kaauri.
     
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  14. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    1.5 SWC is in line with most of not all MI costs.
     
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    AmPm Well-Known Member

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    For the sectorials I am familiar with.

    Druze: Decrease in price on the Druze themselves or a change to stats to increase durability. A pointman of some kind to help clear and push from the deployment, possibly a Druze or Brawler HI. Arslan rework. Give him Mimetism, Shock Immune, and access to a multi-marksman. This would let him be that pointman if needed, though I hate design that crutches on characters...

    JSA: Shikami Dodge (B+1) or Eclipse, Musashi Wildcard.

    Ikari: Brawler as Wildcard, Bounty Hunter + Al Fasid Haris, Keisotsu Lt. loses SWC cost.
     
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  16. Ariwch

    Ariwch Tournament benthotic lurker

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    • Throw the Counterintelligence profile of Tao Wu to the waste bin, copy-paste the one with a contender and give one of them Conterintelligence and another Lt (maybe Lt for Ikary only). Make the evil old man a wild card in all sectorials.
    • Take BS(+1 dam) from Druzes and make them cheaper instead. Leave +1 dam for HMG and MSR. Maybe faction specific profiles with +1 dam. Or even +2.
    • The same for Arslan and give him Shock immunity without increasing price (after -dam). Maybe even TI, though than he won't become cheaper – he has prosthetic limbs, judging by manga, mayby full-prosthetic body. Add faction specific profile with +2 dam and let Lt also be +2 dam (both with old price if not TI). Give his lightweight profile to Ikary and QK without wildcard, but counting as Druze.
    • Either let Longarms be counted as Auxillar FTO or Auxillars be counted as Longarms for FT composition.
    • Anaconda-ejection-nonsense-what? Just give her NWI an let mercenary nomad scum die canned when tactics requires so.
    • As for Aida, I think minelayer suits her better than camo 1 use ;-)
    • I like the idea of Colonel Ikary profile! Ikary to Tankos like Oyama to Domarus?
     
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  17. Henshini

    Henshini Well-Known Member

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    To expand on one of the points above, the longarms need some love on all their sectorials. In white co, which I’ve been looking at lately, CSUs could join them, or even let them join fusiliers if you’re feeling particularly generous.
     
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