Hey, I had a question coming up about the new protection against the removal of 2 orders via command token spending in the strategic use case. The rules on page 124 are the following (emphasis changed by me): This option may only be performed during the opponents Tactical Phase, right after the order count. The player may only remove the orders from Army lists that have more than 10 orders (regular + irregular + tactical). I am unsure how the count of 10 orders is to be understood, if I had 10 regular troopers and 1 hidden deployed trooper in my list, for example, and see two possible readings: Total orders in the army list. This seems to be the case from the "from Army lists" text, but that would mean I would have to give away private information in regards to potential hidden deployment or parachutist troops in my list. Total orders on the table after deployment. This could be concluded from "right after the order count" and the fact that it would keep private information hidden. Maybe this could be clarified? Rules as written (RAW) would suggest 1, but I could see the intention being 2.
RAW it should be option 1, since it’s based on the Army List, but it has to take place at the normal time since you can’t strip orders that haven’t been counted. The problem is that it’ll give away potential Private Information, and it’s not clear whether you ask whether you can do it and your opponent says “no” or whether it’s like Counterintelligence and you only know if it’s legal after spending the CT irrevocably.
It needs to be moved back to models. Tac awareness impacts it. Ruins some hidden deployment shenanigans and is just a mess. Back to more than 1 combat group would be excellent.
I can understand the confusion, but truly, it is telling you when to perform the action, after the orders count, before to start the game. Not how many orders has your list before to start the counting. It is the same wording used when rulebook explains how to count regular orders, the amount of orders available for the Army List. And nobody is thinking to count the whole orders in the army list, before the step where orders are counted.
