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N4 Targeted State and Speculative Attack

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Lawson, Nov 29, 2020.

  1. Lawson

    Lawson Well-Known Member

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    I'm under the impression from the N3 wiki that being in a Targeted State replaces the -6 from a Speculative Attack with a +3 (rather than summing the two MODs to get -3). However, I don't actually see any support for this in the N4 rulebook (doing a pdf search for all instances of Targeted and Speculative Fire doesn't mention Targeted cancels out the penalty from Speculative Attack). Am I just missing it or has it changed?
     
  2. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Antipodean midwit

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    Its changed. Targeted no longer removes the penalty for speculative fire. The net modifier of -3 in your example above is correct.
     
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  3. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Another nerf to Ariadna REMs :|
     
  4. Iver

    Iver Human Plus

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    That's what you get for building them out of sticks, old Nokias and duct tape.
     
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  5. Nuada Airgetlam

    Nuada Airgetlam Nazis sod off ///

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    Old Nokias went into UKR's T2 CCW & ARM 4 ;)
     
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  6. Nihilim

    Nihilim New Member

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    Where does it say that targeted gives +3 to a speculative attack?

    It just says that you apply range mods.

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  7. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Targeted gives +3 to BS Attacks, the first effect of Speculative Fire is to make a BS Attack.
     
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  8. Nihilim

    Nihilim New Member

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    Ok, thanks :)
     
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  9. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    And the last bullet point only tells you to disregard negative mods. I actually had to read that twice, myself.
     
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  10. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, i was just reading up on it and found it weird that neither Targeted and Speculative gave an exception to allow applying Targeted. No exception needed, in the end, it is only negative mods that are cancelled.
     
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