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N4 spoiler Su-Jian

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Surmelk, Sep 9, 2020.

  1. Surmelk

    Surmelk Well-Known Member

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    The great guys over at loss at lieutenant has spoiled N4 Su-Jian

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  2. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    So +1 CC
    Multi Terrain became Terrain Total
    Shock Immunity??
    +1 BS attack damage when in combat form
    +1B on Heavy Shotgun and Heavy Pistols
    Shotgun profile lost flamethrower, expected as the shotgun is a better DTW now
    -0.5SWC on the Spitfire profile

    Spitfire profile dropped 5pts
    Shotgun profile dropped 4pts

    Overall pretty decent upgrade. +1B on the heavy shotgun definitely makes me interested in running that profile some more in Vanilla.
     
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  3. Surmelk

    Surmelk Well-Known Member

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    Yeah looks great. Schock immunity seems to be unnestling of remote presence.

    Looks promising for our HIs.
     
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  4. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Again, we don't need bikers. Who needs one when you can grab such a profile? lol
     
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  5. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Someone who wants a fast specialist.
     
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  6. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    Fatality 1 on the Combat Form
    Kinematika 2, C+ and Multiterrain on the Mobility Form stay (Move+Dodge 12" in N4 if I parse that correctly)
    B3 Heavy Shotgun and Heavy Pistol
    Heavy Shotgun lost LFT (But has a B3 DAM 15(16) HSG anyway, man that thing hurts)
    4-5 points less depending on Profile
    0.5 SWC less on the Spitfire

    Neat.
     
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  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    And a small reminder that "Fatality L1" applies to template mode shotguns as well
     
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  8. ObviousGray

    ObviousGray Frenzied Mushroom

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    Really? Not only BS attacks?
     
  9. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    That must be new in N4. Till now it didnt.
     
  10. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Template mode IS a BS Attack.
    N4 yes. That's an N4 profile and actual Fatality is going away. I'm just reminding people so they don't also let limitations that no longer exist carry over when they "translate" new stuff into old names.
     
  11. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    the L.flamer on the shotgun profile would just be bloat now wouldn't it really when you have access to a B2 damage 15/16 template, you'd just be paying for the option of fire.

    Haven't seen it written down anywhere but the +1 dam on BS attacks is meant to apply to templates, the disclaimer on N3 Fatality was that it required a roll, placing a direct template is still a BS attack, so if the "requires a roll" section is gone then it will apply
     
  12. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    Ahh, now I get it. Because there is no restriction that the BS Attack has to use the BS attribute anymore.
     
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  13. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    It certainly might turn into a super star room clearer that's for sure, walking up to a room and threatening it with 3 DMG 16 templates or 3 BS20 shots is going to be interesting.
     
  14. fatherboxx

    fatherboxx Mission control, I'm coming home.

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    Yeah, judging by the Fractaa and now Su Jian, shotgun users who had template weapons prior would be losing them
     
  15. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this is a teaser for an ISS themed studio update this week.
     
  16. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I don't need a lot of things! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
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    Hot damn turning a beast into a monster...
     
  18. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    The plus one Damage in combat mode annoys me.

    What's with the bonus to the heavy pistol? The heavy pistol already just seemed tacked on, it's not on the model anywhere is it?

    Everything else is fine. Does this mean HSG could put out three direct templates in N4?
     
  19. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I was already going to try the HSG when I could play again. Now it's going to be my go-to. Just wish I could have a duo in vanilla!
     
  20. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Why? Makes sense to me to be on the combat form. It's not how hard it hits but where it hits and that form has an easier time.

    It's robotic. So it's tucked inside it's body somewhere I guess.

    Yes. Yes it does. At damage 16. :grinning:
     
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