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Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Arkaon1125, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. Arkaon1125

    Arkaon1125 Well-Known Member

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    So! After days of complaining (as previously said) i'm aiming to build a list for my first match, with a couple of friends. I still don't know who will be my oppnent but our meta is: Me (Military Order), Aleph (he usually play Phalanx, but i think he will go SSo since Palanxh is removed), Nomad (new player), Haquislam (vanilla i Think). We play at 200 pts.

    After watching some lists poste and thinking about my playstyle i gave some some option, basically i want a Core Fireteam of Order Sargeant with some Wildcars in it.
    • Infirmarer (tryng to maximize Medkit ranged use)
    • Black Friar/Order Sergeant MSV2 (i don't know if they have some Visors, if they have i Prefer the Black Friar, otherwise i wil go Cheaper with the SO)
    • Joan(Spitfire)/KoJ(Spitfire) as lietuenant. I can't decide between those two, but i think for those 3 pts Joan is better offensively, but wors on defense. Any suggestions?
    • I would Like to include an EVO Hacking (mulebots) to protect better my HI, but i dont knwo if this option is safer than a Santiago with Tinbot. That will be surely a better specialist even tho is expensive.
    • At least one Trinitarian (better with Minelayer).

    The rest is filling up a bit. I still don't know if is worth Having ad Hacker or a Killing Device Hacker. Amy suggestion is welcome, i would like to move on from "complaining mode" to a "let's try it" !

    Edit: List without Black Friar (and no firewall at all)

    https://infinitytheuniverse.com/arm...AGAEGAACFzwECAACF9wEDAAAmAQEAABMBAQAAMgECAA==
     
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  2. Zsimbi

    Zsimbi Well-Known Member

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    Joan is a nice rambo Lt. but if you're not planning capitalising on her inspireing leadership bonus, i'd suggest trying out the Santiago spitfire Lt. since its 0 swc, also a specialist and a real toolbox with the E/M grenades and D-charges.

    I found the extra heavy weapons in the list it enables rather usefull (had only 1 game so far in N4 but the two main candidates are the OS HRL since its light on points but heavy on swc cost and the now linkable MSV2 Spitfire OS which would come in handy when you face ODD and TO camo)
     
  3. Skoll

    Skoll Well-Known Member
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    Joan cannot slot into the OS link, the KoJ can. Spitfire joan is SIGNIFICANTLY worse defensively than KoJ (albeit she does have NWI) while being very marginally better offensively outside of a link. The KoJ is significantly better if inside a full link
     
  4. Arkaon1125

    Arkaon1125 Well-Known Member

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    So that answers the decision fro the Lieutenant, thanks!! I bad read that Fireteam composition
     
  5. Rot_Sechs

    Rot_Sechs Active Member

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    My mobile doesnt loke the link and wont open it. Joam is heavy reliant on using her free command well. Coruage/inspiring leadership interaction seems to have changed but would have to read rules myself. Dont think you should run her outside a list that doesnt maximize the conversion of cheap irregular orders who typicly love courage too.

    Haris of hmg/spitfire knight, hosp doc and order seegeant (std./para/hrl) might be a nice way to both get a good doc into the list. Get a "cheap but reliable lt" and have an additional threat on the board.
     
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    Arkaon1125 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think i can fit everything in 200 pts! But i'll keep it in mind!
     
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    Rot_Sechs Active Member

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    Sry. Only skimmed your text. If you want to be mean and give ppl a warm welcome to infinity, this kills a lot:
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    You dont have to deal with fireteam interactions which are still a lot.
    You have 3 potential attack pieces and redundance in the sergs in case one dies.
    Enough fire templates to kill anything approaching you.
    No roof top is safe from you and if you make it to the middle uncontest you can setup nice hmg tower.
    Joan doesnt help the auxbot sergs but can be leveraged to coordinate her, techbee, fugazi and tik to get free moves towards consols.
    Maxibg out points,slots and swc is really important on 200pts. Generally fun list if you string first turn well it can be won near instantly. ^^
     
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    Arkaon1125 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately i can't load the list :(
     
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    Rot_Sechs Active Member

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    Palbot missing and maybe bad copy
     
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    Arkaon1125 Well-Known Member

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    After Some Try and suggestion i ended up with this List! My opponent was Nomad, Corregidor.

    https://infinitytheuniverse.com/arm...AAIXPAQIAABgBAQAAGAEBAAAGAQgAABgBCgAAhfcBAwA=

    • The Duo Hospitalier + Order Sergeant was quite useless, i positioned them badly! I lost lieutenant and my First Turn was quite a mess, but i managed to tie up Objective anway.
    • The core was very good, despite my KoJ got Hacked (oblivion) and then teared apart by enemy hravy machinegun Guy since i could not ARO. • The Infirmarer got some nice job with his shotgun in close quarter assaulting some objective., while the Black Friar MSL2 Turn out very very usefull, i understimated his MULTI rifle.
    •Trinitarian was a charm, really. He killed one with Mines, then his shotgun teared apart his HI. MVP in my match I have to say.

    I think i'll sure rework my lists but i have some input to do it now.
     
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