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Morats in Looting and Sabotaging

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by KaiAgni, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. KaiAgni

    KaiAgni Member

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    This may be the next list I am playing for Looting and Sabotaging.
    [​IMG] Morat Aggression Force
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] RODOK Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] RODOK Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] RODOK Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] RODOK Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] SOGARAT AP HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 56)
    [​IMG] SOGARAT AP HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 56)
    [​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    [​IMG] MORAT Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] MORAT (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    So the idea is to be able to hit and destroy the Anntenna with AP HMG from the Sogarats haris and use the Rodok core to spam the board with anti personal mines to restrict opponents movement to Panopiles.

    Suggestions or thoughts on the strategy or have a better suggestion.
     
  2. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    @KaiAgni You should read the scenery structure rules as well as the Looting & Sabotaging mission rules again. In that mission, the AC2 can only be damaged by anti-materiel CC attacks. Morats *do* have good tools for this mission (Rasyats, Datz, and Kornak), but it's a totally different list than you have there.
     
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  3. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Here's a starting point:


    [​IMG] Morat Aggression Force
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    [​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    [​IMG] SURYAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 38)
    [​IMG] SURYAT HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 44)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] RASYAT Spitfire, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] RASYAT Spitfire, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    6 SWC | 283 Points
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  4. Styx

    Styx Cat.IE~~

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    @Hecaton you are paying 1SWC for that Suryat Haris in a special link option. Kornak have Haris special ability on himself profile, he can make the special haris with Suryats without that 1SWC, then you have free 0,5 or 1SWC to add some points on daturazzi core with some DA CCW and 1-2 smoke grenade launcher, mate.
     
  5. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Is that how it works? Special Haris fireteams don't need anyone with Fireteam: Haris? If that's the case, move the Tinbot over to the HMG Suryat and get a multi/light flamethrower Suryat instead of the Haris one.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, Kornak has Haris himself. Derp.
     
  6. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    Kornak has the skill fireteam:haris on himself, so he can save you that 1SWC for the Suryat haris.

    Yeah, mate, you can't shoot at the AC/2 in Looting and Sabotaging, you have to hit it in CC. I really think Rasyats are the MVPs of the game for this mission. Use controlled jump on your second or even third turn, drop the diplomat next to the AC2, throw a smoke grenade on it then slap 2-3 D-charges on it.

    This is a list I've used time and again for Looting and Sabotaging:

    [​IMG] Morat Aggression Force
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] Q-DRONE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] YAOGAT Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] YAOGAT (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Panzerfaust / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] OZNAT Vulkan Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] PRETA Chain Rifle / AP CCW. (0 | 7)
    [​IMG] GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] GAKI AP CCW. (0 | 4)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] SOGARAT Lieutenant AP HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 56)
    [​IMG] MORAT Hacker (EI Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] RASYAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    Generally first turn I let the Q-drone or the yaogats clean house, then turn 2 or 3 the rasyat comes in and bops the AC2.
     
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  7. KaiAgni

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    Well shit. Totally misread that. Well now I have a completely different direction. Will re hash a list and repost.
     
  8. Styx

    Styx Cat.IE~~

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    Your best options here are: Rasyat as a AD troop covered with some smoke barriers near on the objectives, but you need some orders for that, he can destroy the objective on CC in 1 order with d-charges using that +3CC mode from born warrior bonus. Other options are Kornak on fireteam bonus on CC, daturazi's with DA full core or hungries party as a fastest core link with that DA CCW Oznat + 4 hungries, the cheap option of daturazis. And a cheap krakot 14p with DA.
     
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  9. paraelix

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    As a side note - I rate the Feuer Sog. Definitely worth taking 1 of each flavour in a Kornak link. The Burst 5 Assault Pistol is also invaluable at super close range :D Also frees up 0.5 SWC for you.
     
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  10. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Can confirm that Morats' "diplomatic corps" in smoke is very very effective for this. So much so that I'm going to post koalas and an Intruder Lt. by the stupid thing the next time I play against them.
     
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  11. KaiAgni

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    Ya all are saving me for looking like an ass in my first few games in a new meta with a new army.
     
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  12. paraelix

    paraelix Well-Known Member

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    "Kill the Air Conditioning unit" is a weird mission. Some of the ITS missions cause confusion - especially when the supplied maps are done by an impressionist with no regard for scale.

    Another important FAQ-type ruling to consider in the current ITS climate - Morats, being Veteran L1, are immune to being "Hunted Down" due to Isolation in Hunting Party. "Hunted Down" is considered an "effect" of Isolation and is therefore ignored.
     
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  13. Hecaton

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    Try #2?


    [​IMG] Morat Aggression Force
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    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    [​IMG] SOGARAT AP HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 56)
    [​IMG] SOGARAT Feuerbach / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 57)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 22)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Chain Rifle, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 14)
    [​IMG] DĀTURAZI Combi Rifle + Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] RASYAT Spitfire, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    [​IMG] KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)

    5.5 SWC | 296 Points

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  14. Aldo

    Aldo Trying to detox from being a lorefag

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    Daturazi core is the way to go, I reckon.
    And if you are going with that much smoke, may as well take a Yaogat MSR to get rid of TR bots.
    Kornak Haris for a secondary approach, add a 10th unit and go go Morat rangers!
     
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  15. Wolf

    Wolf https://watchwolf.net

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    I was aware of the interaction, so I’d like to know about a ruling or consensus; can you link the source, thanks?
     
  16. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    The source is a PM Locksmith received from @HellLois .
     
  17. Wolf

    Wolf https://watchwolf.net

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    Ok, thanks; that's good enough for me, and it's about time Morats had something good going for them.
    Has anyone yet, or could someone now write down the upshot of the message for the rest of us?
     
  18. Flipswitch

    Flipswitch Sepsitorised by Intent
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    I would kill for Rasyats in Onyx for this mission. They are excellent!
     
  19. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    22 points for that DA CCW on the dat core hurts, man... The more I think about it, the less I like it. Feels like you're paying too much to do what other models will do for less.

    I had never realized how skewed the equipment on the daturazi is. The only option with a DA CCW is the most expensive and not so useful one.
     
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  20. Wolf

    Wolf https://watchwolf.net

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    There looks like space to swap a couple of Specialists like Anyat & Dr Worm; is the list viable as a basis for other current ITS missions?