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Model in Targeted State Entering Camouflaged State

Discussion in 'Rules' started by MattB89, Oct 28, 2020.

  1. MattB89

    MattB89 Well-Known Member

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    Can a model who is Targeted enter Camouflaged State or is Targeted intended to prevent a model from entering Camouflaged State? If so does Targeted apply the +3 mod for an enemy model which attempts to Discover?
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Nothing in Targetted prevents entering the Camouflaged state.

    The Camouflaged Trooper remains in the Targeted State so Targeted will continue to apply, however Targeted has no effect on Discover:

    "Any Trooper declaring a BS Attack, Hacking Program or Comms Attack against a Trooper in the Targeted State gains a +3 MOD to the Attribute used to perform that Attack."

    You can't declare Attacks against Troopers in a Marker state. So, realistically there's no interaction: Discover + BS Attack is kinda an exception, but not really.
     
  3. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Discover says
    If the user passes a Normal WIP Roll, applying the same MODs as in a BS Attack (Cover, Range, Mimetism...), the target Marker is removed, and must be replaced with the actual Trooper Model, or Weapon or Equipment Token.​
    And I note that Targeted doesn't seem to require an attack to be declared, but the criteria is a BS Attack. The question becomes if this is a MOD for BS Attack or if this is a separate effect that happens because of BS Attack declaration. I'm inclined to see this as a MOD to BS Attack and in such case it would apply to Discover - so when trying to Discover a Holoecho/Holomask I think it's pretty clear you get the +3. Next step is what I am less certain of and that is if Targeted applies to the Marker when it is applied to the Trooper under the Marker...
     
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    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    Reading that states applied to the Trooper don't also apply to the Marker is weird.

    Fair point about it being a BS Attack MOD and those being applied to Discover.
     
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  5. MattB89

    MattB89 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is weird, hence why this sort of an interaction needs a ruling to rule out any ambiguity.
     
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