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Mindwipe question

Discussion in 'ITS' started by Journey, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. Journey

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    Hi everyone,I have a short story. Back in may 2020 I made a custom infinity mission for our local Russian TTS contest. I’ve created an original Russian pdf file for it and then recreated English version to share with the world community. An hour ago, when I read the new ITS season doc, I were a little surprised by mission Mindwipe. The thing that some part of it (not really the whole mission in any case) strongly resembles my own mission, Cyberhunt, some concepts and ideas are very similar (Mine also includes hunting for Rogue AI, for example). There are major difference as well, so i'm not really trying to make drama here or imply anything, if read closely it’s obvious that my mission is more like acquisition when Mindwipe is more like looting and sabotaging.

    I do not mean anything bad, really, it’s just interests me, did Warcors @Blindside and @CoveredInFish draw inspiration from my Cyberhunt when they were designing the Mindwipe? If so, I would've been flattered with simple words of recognition. If not, well, then it's just really funny coincidence, great mind think alike.

    I strongly advise everyone who is reading this post to give a go to Cyberhunt and share your feedback. I’m really proud of it, and wish for everyone to enjoy it as well as our league players did. You can find it in attachment to this post. Give a go to Mindwipe, new missions always welcome in ITS.
     

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  2. CoveredInFish

    CoveredInFish Diplomatic Delegate
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    Sorry, i can say that I never saw the missions from your contest.

    If it would have been inspired by the work of other people we would surely have credited it - and also contacted the author before any release.

    We started working on this mission earlier .. it was meant for a tournament in April that never took place because of corona

    I don’t think it is very similar, rogue AI is in the official fluff and play-wise they are very different, as you say.
     
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  3. Blindside

    Blindside Well-Known Member
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    I am a little bit baffled by this accusation... and will keep it as short as i can and my emotions and anger aside (cause srsly, if u REALLY had thought that we had stolen your idea, u could have easily send us an PM instead of shouting in this saltlake, called 'Forum' "look here guys, i am not gonna say it but i think they...")

    1. i dont know you, mate, also i dont know any1 from the russian meta except slp and some guys from ip and eic, but we didnt even talked a lot, i dont even know how the russian meta plays or how the infinity scene is up there.
    2. i am one of the biggest dislikers of TTS and dont even own it. Imho it is an acceptable methadon for the community as long as corona last, but it harms cb and the infinity experience in so many ways, that i dont and wont ever support this. Thats why didnt even knew there was somewhat of an event on there with some missions and stuff.
    3. I have checked your mission and cannot see what we got in common except that both are talking about a rogue ai (i think which is nothing new in Infinity the Game)
    4. and most important, we designed our mission back in the days on jan/feb 2020 for our planned story tournament on April 2020. it was planned as a serious big event with a real narrative story plot befor and through the tournament, including mission videos and stuff, to prove that it is possible to combine a tournament with a great story arc. And ofc cause it is so fucking cool...
    Obviously everything had to be canceled right after we came back from the EIC in Mallorca so we werent even able to carry this tournament out...

    but here are some links n stuff to that tournament which was called operation babydoll. I wont post the whole storyplot here cause we hope to rehost this tournament as soon as all this covid shit ends....
    The Trailer(January):


    Tournament Informations (only the eng version):
    Tournament information:
    300PTS, 6 SWC
    Tactical Window

    Missions:
    Unmasking
    Mindwipe
    Decapitation

    =ENG= Contest information:
    (participation optional)

    1. Best painted
    - show us your most beautiful S2 miniature, which you have painted yourself
    - the jury will evaluate your painting skills according to their personal criteria.

    2. Best narrative squad
    - Build your vision of Babydoll’s Team!
    OR
    - Present us your own squad of 3-5 miniatures which are able to stop babydoll and her gang!
    - These miniatures do not have to be on your lists and can be any model in the infinity range.
    Creativity and coolness are rewarded here!

    = ENGLISH VERSION =



    PROLOGUE ‘Operation Babydoll’

    [incoming call]
    [automatic encryption initiated]
    [caller ID: 15838 - Mister Peterson, Bureau Noir]

    Greetings Commander, listen to this:

    “MAYDAY MAYDAY, this is Dr Waldblum, head of the free research station “Moonblade” of server cluster 37-C8, orbital platform 4, orbiting Paradiso. This is an emergency call, we are under attack! They will breach through the outer gates any moment! WE NEED HELP IMMEDIATELY! I repeat…"

    We recieved this emergency call a few hours ago. There are strong indications that the aggressors are Babydoll and her gang. We have been trying to catch her for quite some time, but all leads to her have either gone cold or on the wrong track so far.
    There is a high reward for catching these criminals, dead or alive. Further information can be found in your dossier. It is up to you if you want to accept the order.

    [call terminated]
    [data being recieved 1/1]


    Wow, this Babydoll really must have pissed a lot of people off - or not only off, but directly into their mouths! A significant number of ‘Interested Parties' have placed a considerable 'finder's reward' on the cubes of her and her gang… The parties that do not have her on a kill list is a shorter one.
    That has ‘big bounty’ all over it, but I'm afraid that we're not the only ones who want a piece of the cake ...

    [open dossier]
    […]
    [decryption in progress…]

    Thank you for accepting this mission.

    Unfortunately we have little to go on about Babydoll and her team as they rarely leave usable data or records where they strike. We must therefore rely on information relayed by a few survivors.


    Babydoll
    Unknown origin, leader of a gang of hi-tech outlaws who regularly attack various server farms and tech labs to sell their loot, mostly paydata and weapon technologies, to the highest bidder. Rumor has it that an experimental hacking device fell into her hands during one of her raids which gives her the ability to move through local networks like a post-human and to impose her will on them.
    -Hacker

    Drake
    Modified Transductor Zond which carries the equipment for the missions and is equipped with heavy flamethrowers. Records confirm that the drone has a voice chip. It is assumed that it is a Rogue AI.
    - Battledrone

    Doomhammer
    Babydoll’s bodyguard, never leaves her Lhost side. Missunderstood Clockmaker, has built a power armor suit from various parts of their raids, which would make every Omega and Kriza Borac go green with envy.
    A close connection to Babydoll, reasons unknown.
    -HI/Engi- Heavy Weapons

    Skinnrr
    Pilot and former SAS member. Discharged due to massive mental disorders. He tends to skin his conscious opponents. Liquids drug cocktails keep him halfway stable.
    -CC specialist

    Liquid
    Unlicensed street doc who treated refugees for money in Ravensbrück during the 2nd Paradiso offensive and made a lot of money in organ trading. When Ravensbrück fell the investigation against him went on hold.
    -Doctor

    _________________________________________________________________

    And as you can see.... CiF is the calmer person from both of us ;-)

    Cheers,
    Blindside
     
  4. Journey

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    @Blindside you shouldn't be angered, really, i specifically said that i do not accuse you of anything. I was surprised by some visible similarities but i also specifically noticed that the final gole of the mission really different, and i do understand that as well. I was just interested if by some chance you've seen my version of it, that's it. Internet is the big web and such coincidence can easily arise.

    Similarities for me is only that we both designed the mission around idea of trapping AI in some containment with further destruction of it, thou you focus on destroying the actual objective when in my mission you need to control it.. Both mission have an alternative way do destroy it as well, funny enough. As I can clearly see now all of that just a coincidence, ill repeat myself and say 'great mind think alike'.

    I think the @CoveredInFish got my message in the way i intended it to sound. May be my language knowledges (eng obviously not my native language) didn't allow me to express the idea properly.
     
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  5. Journey

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    And yeah, about forum, didn't think proper very to address it to you, may be i were to haste to act.
     
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  6. Blindside

    Blindside Well-Known Member
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    all good!
    we all (including me^^) need to remind ourselfes that we mostly are not communicating in our native language, so things could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

    That was the reason why i started my post like this, to make sure that you dont think i want to insult or offend you in any way.
    I only wanted to clear this situation up... and if it was too aggressive, it wasnt meant like that.
     
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