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Marksmanship and Discover (N4)

Discussion in 'Rules' started by Grotnib, Dec 22, 2022.

  1. Grotnib

    Grotnib Well-Known Member

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    A quick question! How are people playing the Marksmanship + Discover interaction? Our group seems to be of two minds about the subject!

    Discover reads "applying the same MODs as in a BS Attack (Cover, Range, Mimetism...)", while techically Marksmanship says in the requirements that "The user may only benefit from this Special Skill when he declares a BS Attack." Intuitively it feels like Marksmanship should apply here, but RAW it can be argued it shouldn't... Then again, Targeted shouldn't effect Discovers either, as it reads "Any Trooper declaring a BS Attack, Hacking Program or Comms Attack against a Trooper in the Targeted State gains a +3 MOD to the Attribute used to perform that Attack.", yet the FAQ says "Q: Does Discover benefit from the Targeted state? A: Yes, it does. Discover says to apply the same MODs as in a BS Attack."

    Is there a general consensus on the topic?

    Have a great day everyone!
     
  2. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    Discover is not a BS Attack.
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    Discover is not influenced by Marksmanship
     
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  3. Grotnib

    Grotnib Well-Known Member

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    ...yep, and thusly Targeted shouldn't apply either - yet it does. So are people really playing it RAW, and if so, is this something that should maybe have look taken at in a future FAQ? I'm personally fine with it either way, but what bugs me is the inconsistency between Marskmanship and Targeted when it comes to Discover...
     
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  4. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    You didn't read Targeted state properly...
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    The EFFECTS of Targeted state is giving a +3 MOD on BS Attack yaddayaddayadda...
    This is the difference there. Marksmanship REQUIRE the declaration of a BS Attack.
     
  5. Tassu

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    But Discover is not BS attack, Hacking Program or Comms Attack, is it? So what makes Targeted apply to Discover? Other than FAQ telling us that it does.
     
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    Rabble Well-Known Member

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    First bullet of Discover Effects tell you so. And now realise please that marksmanship is not a MOD, but an Skill.
     
  7. Grotnib

    Grotnib Well-Known Member

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    Thank you everybody for your answers, happy holidays!
     
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