Hey, I know that the Makreep typically isn't chosen over choices like the Malignos or Noctifier because it usually is slower and doesn't kill things better for a similar price. I was just wondering what you all thought the Makreep's place is in a vanilla list if it doesn't really kill things better. I've been kicking around the idea in my head that it might be good to assist with guarding a flank with the 29 pt Combi Light Shotgun profile. Kind of expensive but has SS Lv 1 and MSV 2 so goodish utility. I've also been thinking about why one might want to take Morats in vanilla. The Rodok HMG is a good reason, but I thought it may be interesting to not take an EI aspect LT and instead take 4-5 Morats and an aggressive LT in order to save some points off of expensive the G: Mnenotica. They provide their 4-5 religious veteran orders in event of LoL. How do you people play Vanilla? What are your favourite lists?
I think the Makreep is only overlooked in Onyx because theres no smoke. In generic CA, the Makreep w/ HMG can exploit smoke which makes it a good way to eliminate long range ARO units.
I use the HMG Makreep in onyx but never as an ARO unit. I like her as an active turn killer, I see a lot of ODD and Camo in my meta though, so the msv helps even though there is no smoke. In vanilla I like her with the daturatzi also getting it a little up field and in suppressive fire works well also.
Charontid + noctifer. Also Makreep in vanilla its a quite bit nice option with smoke, but the Charontid... with the same tricks and always BS14 its a nasty active piece. 2scnd MSV2 for add suport its a nice profile the makreep with combi+ligthshootgun. If i can't go with Mnemonica LT, ill prefer go with Asuang LT, secured LT camo marker. And Rodok HMG, witohut core link options in vanilla, switch to Q-drone for that, BS14 with assited fire, always you gain a nice and cheap attack/ARO piece, also in all CA sectorials the Q-drone are a shiny active piece.
90% of the time, if I'm running Vanilla, I'm running an Aspect. They're all just damned good units and you're not gonna waste that LT order. Great Shasvastii Units in Vanilla: Speculo Shrouded Noctifier Sphinx Great Morat Units in Vanilla: Daturazi (personally don't use them much) Rasyat (mostly for the D Charges for missions) Zerat FO Kornak (if you're skimming points on the Skiavoros) Raicho (new update!)