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Discussion in 'StarCo' started by SuperD, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. SuperD

    SuperD Well-Known Member

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    We have an upcoming event with missions:
    Biotechvore
    Frostbyte
    Capture & Protect
    Decapitation
    Supremacy

    I'm thinking of bringing the typical GRRLS plus Emily/Alguaciles list with the only tweaks to the formula being.
    - 2x bandits because they're pretty cool and add a bit of variety in terms of attack pieces for the GRRLS list. Ones' an AHD because I suspect there will be quite a few TAGs/heavy infantry for frostbite. The Al Hawwa is probably better at it but then he's less likely to stick the landing for Biotechvore.
    - Lunokhod in the Alguaciles list because he never seems to make the cut for regular Nomads and it's a neat model to play. I'm determined to stick him in here!
    - Neither list has a doctor. I always seem to play with a Daktari and I think it's pushed me into some bad habits for order efficiency; it might be neat to try to play without.
    - Neither list has an up-field FO as I don't usually use Emily's spec fire outside of 16". It's pretty handy for mid-field shenanigans once she gets there though!

    GRRLS list for Biotechvore/Frostbyte. I'd also feel pretty comfortable playing it for the other three provided the opponent doesn't have too many camo tokens and/or white noise. For Biotechvore, the regular orders in group two are just to get the Cateran to safety. I don't suspect the Jaguar/Transductor will live!

    Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    RIOT GRRL Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)
    BANDIT Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 28)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    CATERAN T2 Sniper Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 24)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Alguaciles list for Decapitation, Capture & Protect and Supremacy. Is it better to take the KHD Bandit plus Alguacil hacker or Uhahu? Unfortunately can't fit Bandit + Uhahu.

    Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 25)
    BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    HELLCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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  2. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Interesting concept in your lists to go without a Doctor.
    For List 1 I'd still take the al Hawwa instead of the AHD Bandit he might've a lower chance to succeed the confused deployment roll but then he's still the better specialist (3 Classifieds in BTV, AHD can fulfill most of them, plus D-charges). Further I'd try to get another Brawler.
    Still no Doctor
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    BANDIT (Forward Observer) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 23)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    HAWWA' Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34)
    RIOT GRRL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    RIOT GRRL Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    CATERAN T2 Sniper Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 24)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Your 2nd list is quite good so far, the Luno can shield your Lt. and so on. But again I favour not the Bandit and since I like to keep my hackers out of Links and because Uhahu has more utility scrap the Bandit and The Alguacil hacker to get Uhahu and a Hardcase (who will be able to really ruin any Impersonator's or sup. Infilreator's day).
    Starco. Free Company of the Star
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    HARDCASE FRONTIERSMAN Tactical Bow, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 25)
    SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17)
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    HELLCAT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  3. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    List One: Riot Grrls + Emily Core
    List Two: Alg + Emily Core + Raoul + Brawler MSR Haris.

    Yup you're playing StarCo correctly in tournaments. Carry on. :)
     
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  4. SuperD

    SuperD Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the comments, gives me a few things to think about. I always try to fit in bandits and although I struggle to get good value of them compared to more focused models, I really like the toolboxy concept of the model so I keep trying...

    Any input as to the selection of each list vs the missions?

    Other than the MB link with massacre, what else are we going to do!?
     
  5. Guardian

    Guardian Well-Known Member
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    Can you elaborate a bit on this? Thanks :)
     
  6. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Morlock trainer
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    Well, that's quite easy: Keep the Hardcase in reserve, then after your opponent has deployed his sneaky dude on a wall deploy your two camomarkers like in the graphic
    20190210_000506.jpg

    The two camo markers and the wall lock the Impersonator down since the only option for the IMP is now to jump or to discover, both will reveal the IMP which gives you the chance to shoot it.
     
  7. Guardian

    Guardian Well-Known Member
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    Thats clever :)
     
  8. Fire@Will

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    Would work for any Minelayer, too...
     
  9. SuperD

    SuperD Well-Known Member

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    I kept the dual bandits in the GRRLs list but did swap to Uhahu for the Algauciles list. I came 2nd out of 47 so pretty pleased with the end result. For the most part, the lists worked as intended.

    GRRLs vs Shasvasti on Biotechvore (LI list with linked team of 1 wound guys and a whack of skirmishers/infiltrators)
    I went first and the GRRLs went storming down the field to park themselves at mid-field. Most of them died but the boarding shotgun GRRL got a sneaky ARO through a building's window to clear out 3 members of their link team. Emily picked up two classifieds but I was too aggressive with her as she died to the opponent's biotechvore DZ virus! One of the bandits cleaned out the the mid field, racking up 2 or 3 kills with his shotgun. Neither bandit succeeded at the deployment roll so the rationale behind their greater PH didn't matter!
    End result 6 -1 and MVP was GRRL with shotgun

    GRRLs vs Toha on Frostbyte (3 or 4 triads with all MI/LI guys, 4 mates)
    I went second here and used a big building in the middle to stay clear of his MSV sniper. One of his triads pushed a flank and killed the GRRL with missile. Emily spec fired a grenade to wipe out their mates and then the spitfire GRRL wrecked them. He moved up another triad with the MSV sniper and here the Cateran did his part, knocking down the sniper (won one F2F for the mate, then a second to kill him) and another trooper in ARO. This was a big play as that was his last big gun so he had to play aggressive and rush up with the rest of his list which over-extended him. The bandit KHD who had passed an infiltrating roll into the second half and had just been sitting on top of a building all game then looped back and wiped out the remaining triad using hacking/shotgun.
    End result 10 -1 and MVP Cateran (T2 is huuuge)

    Alguaciles versus Onyx on Supremacy (LI list with Sphinx and Rodok link)
    I went second and deployed like a muppet. I guessed where his TAG was going to go and I thought I had it covered with my missile and Uhahu but somehow misjudged both line-of-fires and neither one worked out. I had 7 models left going into my first turn... Ouch. Emily then spec fired a grenade and immobilized the sphinx! Raoul followed that great act and stuck his landing right in the blind spot beside his Rodoks, game on! Then Raoul spent all 6 orders and failed to do anything... he couldn't throw a drop bear, use a shotgun etc. Embarrassing..
    End result 1 - 10 MVP Emily

    GRRLs versus MO on Decapitation (LI list with Joan and Hospitallier link)
    After the last round, despite planning to use Alguaciles here I went with the GRRLS as I'm more familiar with that list. I went first and the GRRLs bottled up a firelane to keep the Hospitalliers penned in. The bandit KHD started revealed as datatracker, killed the DT and later in the game made an ill-advised attempt to kill Joan and died (but get a wound off Joan which was relevant later). Emily spec fired a grenade to kill two order sergeants. Both were doctored back up. She did the same thing again but this time two TO sergeants revealed themselves to blow her apart. The GRRLs killed the TO sergeants but otherwise didn't do much fighting. Instead, the Cateran climbed a big tall tower and splattered 2 knights and Joan herself at 36" away.
    End result 10 -0 MVP Cateran (T2!)

    Alguaciles versus Tunguska on Capture and Protect (LI list with Kriza Haris and Securitate Core)
    I've played this guy a couple times before and his white noise can be very frustrating for GRRLs so I took the Alguaciles, despite feeling a little uncomfortable with them. However this time, everything went like clockwork. The alguaciles and lunkovod all died but they adequately bled enough orders so the Kriza and Hollowman Harris couldn't go far enough with the beacon. Uhahu isolated one and the Imrhadino and Hardcase ganged up to kill one and tie up the other. Meanwhile, Raoul landed behind the link team, tanked a few shots then slaughtered the entire team plus Interventor lieutenant. The Hellcat landed shortly after, grabbed the beacon and ran it home to my datatracker in the DZ.
    End result 10 - 0 MVP Raoul

    For the GRRLs list, I definitely only need the one bandit. I never actually used the AHD variant. I wish there was a specialist option with a combi rifle... the light shotgun doesn't have enough oomf to make the risk of fighting with B2 worth it. Because of the high SWC cost of the GRRLs, I often don't take the Cateran but I won't do that again! He's a permanent addition from now on.

    For the Alguaciles list, I may need more playtesting as I didn't get a strong enough sample size here. Raoul had a good game and a bad game which I find it is typical for a shotgun attacker. The alguaciles were murdered by a stiff breeze in ARO, I really need to downgrade expectations when using them compared to GRRLs. Sometimes I like to take an HMG with LI links due to cheap SWC costs but I don't know if that's a good idea here. Unlike GRRLs who might be lucky to guts into cover, when your active turn comes over your alguaciles link is going to be pretty beat up and may not have enough bonuses left to power the HMG. Possibly another camo token to support the hardcase to try to slow down attackers would be a good idea.
     
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  10. sorniak

    sorniak Well-Known Member

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    @SuperD Whery nice reports, only important and main features. Short and rich! Riots + Cateran -all way to go :) I think that white noise is not so scary for riot grrls because of Sixth Sense L2 and enemy has to spent his LT order on white noise instead of buffing drones or hiding in cybermask (if his LT is an Interventor ofcourse ;))
     
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  11. daszul

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    the IMP could just move into B2B with both: All Marker states are cancled and a mine is not allowed to go off if the target is engaged. If the real enemy goes just unconscious in CC (not dead), the former IMP can attack the mine because he is still engaged.
    So it might work, but might end with just a dead reserve as well...
     
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    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Camouflaged

    Troopers cannot enter base to base contact with a Camouflage Marker.
     
  13. daszul

    daszul Well-Known Member

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    A, thanks. I just remembered that a all marker states are canceled when in B2B.