Having massive issues settling on a list i want to run for an Interplanetario-style tourney in a few weeks. We're running 5 of the 6 missions (no Highly Classified) and using LI and SoF like the event. Throw some ideas at me! Most the missions are murder-oriented, so it should be easy... but I'm in struggle-town.
Something like this come to my mind: JSA LI ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 3 OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) KARAKURI (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, Chain Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36) KARAKURI Mk12, Chain Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40) KARAKURI Heavy Shotgun, Chain Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35) TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) 4 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army In short: 5-man core of Domarus and Tankos to murder everything that appeared in range. Harris of Karakuris to morder even more and sometimes push some buttons. Engineer to fix Karakuris, remove Immobilize, Isolation etc. nasty effects. Ninja - because is always nice to have ninja here or there :D
First JSA list I've ever written without Yojimbo Japanese Secessionist Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 O-YOROI Lieutenant AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (3 | 86) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) SHINOBU Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0.5 | 47) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 24) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 24) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 24) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) KEISOTSU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Hits hard, can win a gun- and fistfight, slows your opponent down so you can take a turn two and gets 11 Orders to spend on 5 things that use them reasonably reasonably well. Very light on Specialists but still has the best one we have.
This is a very bad list, I know, but I want to use it anyway (I'll do as soon as I have painted all my Domaru and Tanko models): Why not? ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 3 OYAMA Chain Rifle, Granadas E/M / Pistola Breaker, Arma CC AP, Arma CC EXP. (0 | 28) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistola, Arma CC E/M, Arma CC Shock. (2 | 39) TANKŌ Blitzen, Subfusil / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Lanzamisiles / Pistola, Arma CC Monofilo, Arma CC Shock. (1.5 | 32) DAIYŌKAI Red Fury, Panzerfaust / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Arma CC AP. (1 | 49) DOMARU (Fireteam: Haris) Chain Rifle, Granadas E/M / Pistola, Arma CC E/M, Arma CC Shock. (0.5 | 27) DOMARU Chain Rifle, Granadas E/M / Pistola, Arma CC E/M, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 26) DOMARU Chain Rifle, Granadas E/M / Pistola, Arma CC DA, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 27) DOMARU Teniente Chain Rifle, Granadas E/M / Pistola, Arma CC E/M, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 26) 5 CAP | 300 Puntos Abrir en Infinity Army No Specialist, not a single one, just 10 IP's that can murder you if you let them get close: Domaru+Tanko 5 man Fireteam, Dayokai+Domaru Haris, and Domaru Duo. If you want to try something that MIGHT work (if you are very lucky), replace Dayokai+Domaru Haris with Domaru+Karakuri Haris.
Japanese Secessionist Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 2 TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 27) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24) ONIWABAN Submachine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0 | 37) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Here's my take on it. I really don't like the Domaru Spitfire in the double missile link, but it's really hard to spend all the SWC otherwise. It's really difficult to fill 300 points if you take a Keisotsu core though, so I would either take the DoTanko link or just not take a Core altogether (which is perfectly acceptable in LI, IMO.)
Here are a couple of iterations. I took the first two to an event this past weekend where we played Deadly Dance, Show of Force and Firefight. I only ended up using the first list. TAG + HI LI 2 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 4 O-YOROI AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (2 | 86) OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 26) TANKŌ Blitzen, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24) KEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) 3.5 SWC | 301 Points Open in Infinity Army I played against Vanilla Haqq (Deadly Dance), QK (Show of Force), and Tohaa (Firefight). I won each game, majoring Haqq and Tohaa - and going first in both of those games. The list is unsubtle and revolves around knowing when to hold Yojimbo back and when to commit him to the fray. It plays great defensively because you can turtle your linked HI behind koalas. Note that it shows Yuriko as emitter, but I run the cheaper panzerfaust. Tag firefight ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 O-YOROI AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (2 | 86) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 24) KEMPEI (Multispectral Visor L2) Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 23) KEISOTSU Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 14) DOMARU Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 26) SHIKAMI Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 47) ONIWABAN Submachine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0 | 37) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army This second list trades resiliency for more tricks, the linked kempei provides active turn protection from visual modifiers, while the Oniwaban Ryuken9, and Shikami do their thing, ending their turns with a coordinated suppression wherever possible. I ended up taking the first list every time because my opponents armies all had the option to come loaded with a ton of cheap normal sniper rifles, viral weaponry, and other nasty ways to make ninjas cry a little inside.
Samurai 7: Japanese Secessionist Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 4 OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ Blitzen, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Blitzen, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) O-YOROI AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (2 | 86) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) KEISOTSU Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Engineer gets the helperbot to deal with EM and glue.
So this is what my silly brain came up with - making use of a bunch of models I want to field; Japanese Secessionist Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 8 2 4 DAIYŌKAI MULTI Marksman Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CC Weapon, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 52) OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Blitzen, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I'm just a bit bummed - I wanted to field McMurrough (because I had a cool conversion idea), but he is hard to justify at 31pts vs Jimbo at 21pts.
There is no better reason for a list than "I want to use these models!" It should work, though I'd want to keep the DoTanko link at 5 for as long as possible. You're going to suffer a bit on the missions, but that's a common issue for JSA. Squishy specialists, for the most part.
If I go the route of mid field dominance (read - triple Ryuken) and opt for a Daiyokai/Takeshi Duo or Haris though... Hmm... I think I'm worried about leaving the linked Missile Launcher at home, knowing that there will be TAGs due to Limited Insertion.
Gave the above DoTanko/Daiyokai/Uhahu/Spector list a go. Performed solidly. Managed to take out opposing Hacker from range, so Uhahu's only contribution was supportware to drop Spector in. Spector did a little bit of work (taking on Riot Grrl link), and managed to lock them up for a while using Drop Bears. Played a second game trying out 2x Ninjas, 3x Ryuken, Daiyokai/Neko, Spector, Jimbo, Uhahu... Was again vs Riot link (full this time). Got taken apart pretty solidly after failing the Wip roll and missing out on first turn. All of my Ryuken were caught at funny angles and died to the first order spent against them. Started turn 1 with half my force dead :( Probably gonna stick with just the DoTanko core and try to vary the additional troops/try to find points to swap a Tanko pleb for an FO Domaru.
Brisbaterio Daiyokai──────────────────────────────────────────────────8 2 4 OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39) TANKŌ Blitzen, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) DAIYŌKAI MULTI Marksman Rifle, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CC Weapon, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 52) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24) 5.5 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army So this will be my specialist light option. Big link, additional heavy hitters (Daiyo, Jimbo and Spector) and board control through Ryuken Suppression and Mines.
Brisbaterio Specialists ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 8 2 3 OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28) DOMARU Spitfire / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (2 | 39) DOMARU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) RYŪKEN (Forward Deployment L2, ODD) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24) YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army For the missions requiring slightly more specialist involvement (chiefly, Supplies) I take out the Daiyo and a Ryuken to add Yuriko and Saito, and to upgrade a Tanko to a Domaru FO. Unsure on whether to keep the E/M Tanko vs the Fire one though...
I'd keep the Blitzen Tanko for limited insertion. You are more likely to see HI and TAGs than things to light on fire. And don't forget that Blitzen are EM2, so cause 2x rolls at half BTS for IMM2. Ouch.
Heh. I know there will be at least 2 Achilles and at least 1 Avatar. EDIT - also just realised the Blitzen is the SMG not the LSG. Gotta fix that up.
JSA LI──────────────────────────────────────────────────9 1 1 O-YOROI Lieutenant AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (3 | 86) KARAKURI (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, Chain Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36) KARAKURI Heavy Shotgun, Chain Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 35) KARAKURI Mk12, Chain Rifle, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) KEMPEI (Multispectral Visor L2) Shock Marksman Rifle / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) KEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) KEISOTSU Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 4.5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army I'm not sure if this works... (I'm using a cellphone...) Oyoroi Lt to do some serious killing. A Karakuri Haris to do even more killing. Yojimbo because you do not leave home without him. A Kempei Keisotsu core to keep things going. (Including a medic.) An engineer to keep the big guys up. And an order monkey because I was low on points.
