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Kameel EVO tactics and advice

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by Edster, Mar 26, 2018.

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  1. Edster

    Edster Well-Known Member

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    Hi Guys,

    Recently I have been tinkering with the lowly Kameel EVO hacker. I want to find out more about what I can do with it. Below is a summary of the things I've been playing with. Let me know what you guys have done with them!! As these are my opinions it is likely I have some things wrong, but hopefully you can help me figure out how to use this bad boy effectively.

    I'm primarily a vanilla Haqq player and love all the units and tricks and toolbox units we have. I absolutely LOVE AD troops - Ragik, Bashi and Yuan Yuans really are so much fun. My rule is - ALWAYS ROLL because I'm reckless and its cinematic in-game!! *disclaimer* New players - do not heed this advice - always walk Ragiks in on the side ;)

    Played firefight with and EVO and two ragiks at PH12 dropped in on +3 for the mission +3 for EVO Kameel assist and then +3 for the controlled jump - 21's!!! ...I hope I got those rules right!

    Since then the EVO has successfully dropped in Yuan Yuans and Ragiks all over the place (but even Ragiks on 18s are displacing as my dice rolling is still terrible!!!).

    So now I'm thinking what else can I do with my EVO...

    REMS
    I can boost up Rafiqs which is pretty handy for firefights 0-16 inches, and Rafiq can use Sat Lock without the -6 penalty on pesky TO camos. I can get a B2 ARO fanous sniffer bot (useful for repeater, ARO and synergies with rafiq's sat lock). I can put marksman on the HMG bot. I can even protect them all from being hacked with kaleidoscope.

    COORDINATING HACKING ORDER
    Combine with a hunkakut / barid pitcher repeater and suddenly Bit and Kiss/killer hackers aren't as scary. Even Heavy infantry/tags can get hit with multiple attacks.

    REROLL HACKS
    You can re-roll one of the WiP hacks with a command token - does this mean you can keep rolling until you run out of command tokens? It seems that can you use this also on a 'push the button' actions in mission objectives or for the HVT:Espionage card.

    TEAM PRO (VANILLA)
    so this means I can make a Duo team with units in my Vanilla army - V COOL... however there aren't may available because of AVA. Druze AVA 2, Sekban AVA2 and Asawira AVA1. So here's the question - can I deploy a Hafza as a second Asawira even though it is only AVA1 and put him into the duo team one Team Pro is activated and he has not been revealed?

    I really like the idea of having a cheeky HRL moving up with my Asawira Spitfire...

    Let me know what else you guys do... Fairy dust on you Janisary link team? Kaleidoscope on your al hawwas and Tuaregs? I'm interested to find out more.
     
  2. Edster

    Edster Well-Known Member

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    My Kameel EVO was so pleased when all his best mates turned up to his Birthday Party!

    Kameel_bday_party.jpg
     
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  3. Sojourne

    Sojourne Irregular

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    Unfortunately, Controlled Jump doesn’t stack with the Evo’s passive +3 boost.
    • An EVO Hacking Device automatically provides a +3 PH Bonus to the Airborne Deployment Special Skill. This Bonus is not cumulative with the Controlled JumpSupportware Hacking Program, nor with the Bonus provided by other additional EVO Hacking Devices.

    A Hafza in Vanilla Haqq also doesn’t allow you to form a duo with the Asawira, simply because QK’s Hafza’s special rules are not ported to Vanilla’s Hafza in Army Builder.
     
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  4. HardDisk

    HardDisk Well-Known Member

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    I don't like the Haqq EVO too much, a barid Lt is better for less points, coordinated hacking is very rare in my meta and Haqq Vanilla Duo is too expensive for too little effect in game
     
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  5. PreacherSaul

    PreacherSaul Active Member

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    I used this in my last 2 games as vanilla to try it out, first was quadrant control, other was tic tac toe. I don't think I'll be using it again.

    Having the plus 3 for jumps is nice, but half the time Ragiks come in on the sides.

    Duo is nice if you are taking a pair of Sekban, but a spitfire Sekban in the midfield is going to suppress, thus breaking the link. His doctor buddy can get up to other things I guess but it is situational.

    Hacking stuff is meh for me.

    Plus 3 for capping in tic tac toe is handy, but if dice hate you it is of no use whatever.

    Extra points for baggage is nice if you can move and protect its defenceless ass.

    Lots of sometimes useful things. If you take it you kind of need to build a list around it to make the most of it. Or you could just take a Barid for the same points and carry on as normal.
     
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  6. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Kameel EVO are amazing...

    ...in Druze Bayram Security!
     
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  7. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    For missions like Firefight and Tic Tac Toe they find a way into my lists becuase of the specific bonuses, but apart from that its a to big investment with limited return for me.

    We do not have the REMs to fully take advantage of the special programs. Kaleidoscope and Reboot are rarely worth the order. Coordinated Hacking and rerolls for Hacking are nice, but mostly unecessary or not worth the CT.

    Whats really good is the straight WIP roll for Sat Lock....

    Ahh yes, if we had another interesting Duo option in Vanilla, I'd take it for Team Pro. But with only 2 options, I rather save the CT for other things.

    And as far as I know the Hacking rerolls only apply for Hacking Programs. So no rerolls of Classifieds or Mission Objectives.
     
    #7 emperorsaistone, Mar 26, 2018
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