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Invincible Fireteams

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by WarHound, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. WarHound

    WarHound Well-Known Member

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    So, following up on the excellent work done by @Space Ranger in this thread: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/yu-jing-fireteams.33822/

    If I want to make a Haris with the following, does it work?

    YĀN HUǑ (FTO) 2 Missile Launchers / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 52)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)

    Or does there need to be

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)

    in there somewhere?
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Someone needs to have the Haris skill for it to be a legal Haris, could be a Zhuyong or a Wildcard, but without the skill the Fireteam can't be formed.
     
  3. KestrelM1

    KestrelM1 Well-Known Member

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    The Haris profile can't be a Wildcard (Shang Ji) after the most recent FAQ. The Yan Huo special fireteam must include a Zuyong Haris, but after that you can substitute any of the Yan Huo for Wildcards.
     
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  4. WarHound

    WarHound Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info peeps!

    Seems that the only approach for maximum firepower-to-cost would be:

    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    YĀN HUǑ (FTO) 2 Missile Launchers / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 52)

    It's 21pts over the inital composition, but the only way..
     
  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    OMG maximum firepower!! lol Thanks and let us know how that works for you.
     
  6. ijw

    ijw Wargaming Trader, Freelance Editor (UK)
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    From experience from @REND running almost this exact Haris, it's also bleeping hard to hack!
     
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  7. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that only true for Core Fireteams?
     
  8. KestrelM1

    KestrelM1 Well-Known Member

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    The Forum clarification only affected Core teams. The FAQ amended that clarification by adding that the troop providing the Haris or Duo skill determines the type of the fireteam.

    So, any team with only a Shang Ji Haris providing the skill is automatically a Shang Ji fireteam, meaning it cannot include any non-Shang Ji or Wildcard members, and can't be a "Zuyong + Yan Huo Special" because that team is listed under Zuyong and not Shang Ji.

    In brief, the Shang Ji Haris profile has lost a large part of its ability to substitute for the Zuyong Haris.
     
  9. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I've updated it on my thread.
     
  10. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I do not think this FAQ changes anything for Invincible Army. The Yan Huo special Haris isn't limited to type of Fireteam, but to specific models and swapping in a Shang-Ji Haris instead of the Zuyong isn't going to matter as long as you still have a Yan Huo FTO in there somewhere. Similarly, the restriction on the Guijia is "Guijia + Krit", not "Zuyong Duo", and as such should be perfectly fine with Guijia + Shang-Ji.
     
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  11. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Ug I can't belive it's still unclear. Why can't they say Wildcards can / cannot replace troops with Haris or Duo skill. This is why Wildcard should be an actual skill!
     
  12. zapp

    zapp Well-Known Member

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    It's still a total mess :-/
     
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  13. Bohrdog

    Bohrdog Santathematics

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    It didn't affect wildcards, they can still join any fireteam they just aren't the founding member.
     
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  14. Azuset

    Azuset Well-Known Member

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    Can you please tell me where that FAQ is? 1.6 is still on the download page. It's not in that one.
     
  15. ijw

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    krossaks Well-Known Member

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    Wait with this faq guijia + Shang-Ji is still legal?
     
  17. KestrelM1

    KestrelM1 Well-Known Member

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    That's not legal, no. Since the Guijia doesn't have Duo you have to take Krit in the team. After that you can sub out the Guijia for any Wildcard.
     
  18. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    *tears hair out*

    The fireteam doesn't even specify that Krit has to have Duo, it only demands a Krit FTO profile
     
  19. Azuset

    Azuset Well-Known Member

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    Azuset Well-Known Member

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    Okay, it looks like all of the links are correct now.

    @ijw you linked the Skills and that is where my confusion was.

    I was able to get the 1.7 FAQ.

    Thanks for the help.