How to start with HB?

Unfortunately there is no action pack for HB, and the Haqq Action pack has the essential Fiday, but the rest of it is not well tuned for HB.

You'll absolutely need the following.

• Asawira Spitfire
• Barid
• HB starter.

The Haqq Action pack has the Fiday (amazing sculpt),Ragik & ghulam which are HB friendly. I personally rarely play the Ragik, but that is a preference. The Fiday is something you will want in your arsenal, but you might want to grab Al-Djabel if you don't want to buy the full action pack. The Ghulam & Daylami are fairly interchangeable. The Ghulam NCO is practically an auto-include (no dedicated model available). The Doc another common profile. You might want to get the support pack instead so you get the Nasmats as well. If you are proxying the Sniper can make a decent Yara (no model yet), and the Kwajari can proxy as a Nadir or Shujae (no model for either yet).

I find Leila (direfoes) makes it into most lists. If you are getting back into the game an HVT won't hurt. I personally find the direfoes packaging a little bit of a cashgrab.

The Muyibs used to be THE FIRETEAM you took with HB. Now that they are wildcard along with Asawira. I find the HRL tends to be the only one I play. You get a Muyib in the HB starter, but it's the Smoke LGL. The Ghulam NCO made this profile fairly obsolete.

Remotes: In general I usually avoid these, but with the N4 baggage changes I see the Kameel TR profile being useful. HB has access to a lot of fun disposable weapons. One Baggagebot is useful for those irregular ARO pieces. With 15 model cap the TR profile is worth the extra points.

The following are decent but less useful than the above.

• Lasiq
• Ghazi (I almost never play these anymore, but if I don't put them here someone will scream bloody murder on the forums)
• Ragik

I only pull these models out if I actively want to try and find a use for them.

• Govads
• Remotes (I almost never play the Non-Kameel, but see above)

Fiddler is the new hot model, but she is an LE and fairly expensive compared to other HB models. I tried her in a couple HB games, but think she is better in other factions.

Spoiler: Sample List 1

Sample List1
HB Mk2
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GROUP 1 10 1
YARA HADDAD (Lieutenant, Strategic Deployment) AP Marksman Rifle / Heavy Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17)
GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
ASAWIRA AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
MUYIB (Tactical Awareness, X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mines, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23)
FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)

GROUP 2 1 4
LASIQ VIRAL Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 6)
DAYLAMI Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 6)

6 SWC | 299 Points

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Spoiler: Sample List 2

this is an anti-HI Stealth list.

LOL - HI Stealth v2
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GROUP 1 10 1
GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
GHULAM (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 16)
BARID (Lieutenant, Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 17)
BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17)
LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
ASAWIRA AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
MUYIB (Tactical Awareness, X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25)
YARA HADDAD (Strategic Deployment) AP Marksman Rifle / Heavy Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
FIDDLER Contender(+1B), Drop Bears, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 42)
2X JACKBOT Vulkan Shotgun / . (0 | 14)
NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)
NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3)

GROUP 2 1 4
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
KAMEEL (Total Reaction, Repeater) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 18)

6 SWC | 299 Points

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I agree with all the above, except the S3 remotes. The Shaytaniyah is excellent in HB, and the Fanous will also often make an appearance just as a cheap order and backline guard (and occasional fast repeater). They're also hard to proxy, so I'd include a remotes box on the list of potential purchases.

Keep in mind that a lot of factions have S3 remotes, and there's no particular reason to use the ones branded for Haqq, you can choose whichever you like best. Personally I hate the new Haqq remote models, and would use Dronbots from Pano (which are a fantastic sculpt) if I didn't already have the old chickenbots (which are the best sculpt in the game, obviously!)

 

I second the HB starter. The Daylami are some of the heroes of Haqqislam. I would recommend the Muyib box because they make great fireteam glue in HB. Tac Awareness is super useful. Finally, the Lasiq blisters are pretty good. You can make a good haris with a muyib and the two models. Viral is still very good and helps keep the Doggos away.

 

@Cannon Fodder nailed it.

I will only add, while "govads" are in a bad place right now, thanks to the amount of wildcards we have in HB, we can build a pretty decent "hmg govad haris" with this only one govad. It is a really good one. Yet I will not put this model in my top to buy, but definetively I don't take him out neither.

About the muyibs, back in N3 it wasn't unusual to see a full core of them, but now probably you will see only a couple of them. But in time to time you could want to take not only the "shooters" with tactical awareness, but a couple of minelayers, viral or em, depends on what you should face.

 

Govads have the MSV hacking device combo with a template weapon. They force normal rolls against any opponent that isn't a hacker or packing MSV, plus the Govad is Veteran which is a highly desired skill on hackers these days.

Link it with Asawira and Muyibs and use it to destroy anything you can get within 8" of.

 

Yes, but remember this is a question about what to buy in order to beginn with HB. Of course it is a good option, but in my believe really narrow to justified the purchase of a entery box. The hmg govad is yet sold in a blister.

 

Fiddler was a last minute addition to the list. In theory you can go into cc with fiddler and all her bots to get 5B in cc. My original version of the list didn't have fiddler. It had Yara as the LT and a farazan coc. I think I also had a nadir there. I also use the nasmats as mine removers if I have a couple points to spare.

 

I think you have everything you need. Keep in mind that JSA has probably better CC than you, so Fiday will be better "shooting" at things than punching then. Still, they are a few profiles you can "attack" with CC. Maybe I will change the "ghazi", "jammer" of 6 points and boarding shotgun+emarat of 9. This will spare 5 points, so you can change "leila" for "yara". You have enough specialist in your list, and against JSA you can easily face a lot of mimetism -6 + smoke, so Yara with the "MVL2" probably will be "gold". Even she will allow to you the "shoot behind smoke tactic". JSA will have the "same profile" in the Kempetai, but yours have higher BS and "ARM" thanks to bioinmunity. So, a better shooter. But this changes aren't mandatory. Both profiles will work perfectly. Emines from Leila could be a pain in the ass for JSA.

Best regards!

 

Glad I could help. That list is much better overall. The second was fairly quickly put together and needs work.

In the second list I posted I had a Hacking fireteam that really wants to litter the table with pitchers, and use a baggagebot to reload the pitchers. JSA tends to have lots of HI Stealth Melee machines. That piece of the list is designed to give them a hard time. They have to avoid all the repeaters just to engage something, and you can break links quickly. You really want to go first if you are playing that.

 

A couple points on this. I find Fireteams should be offensive to defensive. If being offensive you might want a little defense (KHD to protect the HI), but having a fireteam that's mostly defensive and 1 offensive model is sub-optimal. You opponent will actively attack your weakest link. Even take a loss by AROing on a non-leader just to break the fireteams 5 man bonuses.

I'm presuming the Doctor is not in the link since its the only model that can take the Nasmats. If it's in the link he can't use them.

 

You can move Leila in the fireteam.

 

N4 HB is pretty much a souped-up version of N3 Shavastii, they got the best ARO game of all faction imo. I build them like I build my Sha, a overwhelming midfield, impersonators to disrupt, hidden deployed ARO to punish and a very small, mobile fire team to spend your active turn orders on.

You can really abuse the fact that things in HB don't cost the SWC that they should be costing.

Farzan: One of the best midfield specialist in the game, WIP14 with a super relevant specialist type. Alternatively, a 0 SWC Minelayer.

Impersonators: Impersonators are one of the strongest trooper in the game, HB is lucky enough to have mines, direct template and smoke on theirs. Great both as active turn piece to target some key pieces and in reactive to waste a lot of opponents order (having to discover them twice to interact with them can be incredibly order intensive if they get some bad rolls). Oh yeah, and 0 SWC (unlike every other impersonators in the game).

Nadhir: A hidden deployed impact template piece, with forward deployment (which if I'm not mistake is the only trooper in the game with that combination) for 0 SWC. Not only that, but it doubles as a WIP14 specialist. The SMG / Flammenspeer is insanely cost-officient and an ultra optimized profile.

Daylami: Super cost efficient filler troop, great at tarpitting and slowing the opponent advance. Wastes your opponent a ton of orders for a very small price tag. Also for some reason, got a SWC discount in N4, so they're 0 SWC.

The fireteam: I much prefer a 3-man fireteam over any other size, keep the fireteam mobile and doesn't make it a liability. You get the most bang for your bucks. I don't think HB wants to play a defensive fireteam and I'm def not a fan of 5-man active turn fireteams (more downsides than upsides imo). An argument could be made for a 4-man fireteam to give the Barid Sixth Sense.

Asawira: One of the better active turn gunner in N4, got a serious buff with the edition change, profile is just all around amazing.
Barid: super cost-efficient pitcher, very cheap way to add an hacking defense to your already defensive gameplan. I could see the argument in getting 2 barids in the Fireteam to have some redundancy and give them sixth sense.
Ghulam (NCO): Gives you a cheap way to cash in your LT order and some pretty reliable smoke.

Muttawi'ah: Since they got nerfed, they're way too often overlooked imo. Jammer is still great and is still a hard counter to some of the stronger strategy some factions can use. You definately don't take a full 4 like you did in N3, but a single jammer Muttawi'ah goes a long way.

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GROUP 1 9 1 1
FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27)
ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15)
BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17)
BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17)
MUTTAWI'AH Boarding Shotgun, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 10)

GROUP 2 2 3
NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)
DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8)

3.5 SWC | 300 Points

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This is my skeleton, I would comfortably run this archetype in any of the ITS missions. I'd probably swap a Barid for a Ghulam Doctor if I was running Highly Classified or Countermeasure.

Alternatively, while the second Barid supports the first one by giving them Sixth Sense, I'd also highly consider a Shaytaniyah Missile bot to supplement it.