HOW MANY POINTS A TAGS OPERATOR WORTH?

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  1. reaper84

    reaper84 New Member

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    The operator hasn’t the <<pilot>> skill so it can only dismount if the TAG enters null/dead state using ED : system and the fag says <<The total army points of the TAG to which the Operator belongs will be added to the Zone of Operations. >> But this is only for dominate/secure ZO. What happens for other circumstances like dominate/secure exclusion zone or for retreat or killing ???


    In previous editions, specifically in human sphere paradiso N2 page 160, it says <<T.A.G.s with Ejection System don’t give Victory Points until the Operator is eliminated, in an Unconscious or Dead state.>> but I can’t find something relevant in N3 rules.
     
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    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    TAG operators (Iguana, Anaconda, Gorgos) have the same point value as their TAG
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    N3 Frequently Asked Question FAQ Version: 1.4, Sep 2018
    Q: Do TAG Operators count for Zones of Operations?
    A: Yes. The total army points of the TAG to which the Operator belongs will be added to the Zone of Operations.
     
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    Pendragonstn Well-Known Member
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    Source? The operator profile doesn't have a cost.
    That's about Zone of Operations which is a rule that only some missions have like Quadrant Control. He is asking in general how many points he is worth, like in Victory Points.
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    They're an alternate profile of the same trooper, much like Symbiont Armour, Dog Warriors, dismounted bikers, etc. A change in profile doesn't change the fact it is still the same trooper.

    Pilots are the exception because, unlike the above, both profiles can exist on the board at the same time.
     
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    Check how Symbiont armour/transmutation etc troopers are shown. Both profiles are listed above and the cost is only shown on the loadout. Now check how TAGs are shown. First is the TAG profile, then the loadout which also shows the cost and then under all that is the operator/pilot which has no SWC or point cost. What is more, go check the Anaconda, the operator has a 0 point cost written.
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Interestingly the Iguana doesn't show a points cost for the operator, and neither does the PDF entry for the Anaconda which suggests that might be a bug in Army.

    Either way, it's the pilot skill that makes a pilot worth 0 points, and Operators are not pilots.
     
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    That's because Active and Inactive Symbiont Armor profiles have the same weapon options. Just like Transmutation etc.

    As colbrook says, the Pilot has no value because the Pilot Special Skill says so - and it's a 'secondary' profile that can be on the tble at the same time as the actual TAG.
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    The Gorgos does get a full separate entry for its inactive armour due to a weaponry change.
     
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    Pendragonstn Well-Known Member
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    Ok then, what does the FAQ that states Zone of Operations clarify then?

    Moreover, is the 0 cost of the Anaconda operator a mistake on the army then?
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    That people frequently asked that question.

    As the profiles PDF doesn't have the 0 cost, that seems likely, I've already logged it in the Army Builder bugs thread.
     
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