Holomask and booty

Discussion in '[Archived]: N4 Rules' started by Gwaernydd, Feb 4, 2022.

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  1. Gwaernydd

    Gwaernydd Well-Known Member

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    Hi!
    Do i assume correctly that if i want to holomask a trooper who has booty, i roll just like i would with the real one, as the holo trooper simply replicates everything it has that is not a token?
    Thanks in advance, sorry if this is obvious or has already been asked, couldn't find anything.
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Holomask does not replicate the effects of skills, so you would not roll when disguised as a trooper with Booty.

    Yes this will give away the fact its a Holomasked trooper, I would advise against it.
     
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    Gwaernydd Well-Known Member

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    Thats kinda sad, but thank you!
     
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    Gwaernydd Well-Known Member

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    Some more questions came up regarding holo, I've just started playing dashat and never had holo troopers before, well here's a ton of them.
    So in its 13 if i mask a lu duan as a kum, can i simply say "this kum is not impetuous" or do i need to clarify that the choice of a real bike choosing between impetuous and cover is not present?
    I know at order count phase the lack of irregular would betray it either way, it's just about the mind games at deployment.
    Similarly if i mask sforza as a zhuyong/brawler/odalisque linking with 2 abh-s (as its a legal haris either way), do i have to say its an abh haris, or just say, well its a haris team of these 3 dudes?
     
  5. JoKeR

    JoKeR HAWZA Instructor
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    in short - you CAN NOT say it use biker rules, cause real unit have no Motorcycle at all.
    second - also yes, if your opponent asks you, you must say it ABH Fireteam, not the team of other units.
     
  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Arguably, the rules for choosing to not be impetuous is not written as mandatory which means you're allowed to not make a choice for a motorcycle even if not clarifying that you want the bike to be impetuous is sus as heck unless you're prepped for it.
    You CAN say "I deploy this dude here and I'm kinda happy with him being Impetuous" but you CAN'T say "I deploy this dude here and choose Impetuous" and if your opponent is pushy about you clarifying the rule you could just say "look, I told you he's impetuous and if you suspect he's a Lu Duan then that's not something I need to answer". You may want to deploy an actual Kum in this manner so you can keep the charade up.

    When Sforza is Holomasked, the fact that he's a Wildcard is private information and you as the player are responsible for the fireteam being formed correctly. At time of writing, I can't find any rules that would force you to say that a Haris once formed is of any sort of identity since the Fireteam identity rules were scrapped going into N4, each trooper is individually validated according to the total composition. Not to mention how utterly absurd it would be to have to reveal this due to the presence of a Wildcard Holomask trooper.
    Keep in mind that whether the fireteam is a "pure" or a "mixed" fireteam may be changed at a later date
     
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