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Hassassin Bahram TAG

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by Keyrott, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Keyrott

    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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    One could say that a faction of secret assassins do not need a giant stompy robot, but I'd say why did you get such a party pooper? What would you like to see from a Hassassin Bahram TAG if it ever came into being? Holo 2 seems like what it would get, but then you could not really use its holo 1 capability effectively because nothing else is S6 (unless it gets a special rule where holo can change silhouette value, which I believe would make it funniest thing in Infinity I've ever seen). It could also get some level of camouflage, which seems Pan-Oish and boring. What do you think?
     
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    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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    Edit: Nothing is S6 or S7 in Haqqislam, to cover both light and heavy TAGs. I guess I was assuming it'd be a light TAG.
     
  3. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    S6 with some form of forward deployment and ambush camo. Make it look serpent like and give it viral ccw, and maybe 2 viral rifles/snipers or something like that.
     
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  4. emperorsaistone

    emperorsaistone Well-Known Member

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    S6, very light, very fast. High CC, MA1, Dual Wield, Ap and DA CCW, Twin Heavy Shotgun+LRL and Camo. Same loadout without Camo but with Mimetism and Fireteam Duo.

    Et voila, here we have a TAG for close up jobs with the means to get there. BS is 13 max, MOV I would Imagine with 6-6 or 8-4.
     
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  5. Janzerker

    Janzerker Well-Known Member

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    This sectorial shouldn't have a TAG. It was already quite forced to get a true Hassassin HI, and there was no need for that. Asawira as representatives of the Sha were enough to fill the HI spot.

    But it's not only the fact a TAG has no place in Hassassin , and much less if you keep in mind Maghariba Guard is the best and only one kind of TAG Haqqislam can afford; but the fact In the Human Sphere only Panoceanian and YuJIng industries have developed the "know how" to build TAGs. Haqqislam, Nomads, mercenaries , ... can only acquire outdated series and second hand TAGs. And they don't have any of the bells and whistles the Panaoceanian ones enjoy. Anaconda and Scarface's TAG are quite simple and direct in conception, Maghariba can equip 360 º at best, and even the Nomads TAGs, that are heavily modified, don't feature more enhancements than decent weaponry, additional protection, ejection cockpits and/or repeaters. Yet people here is already wishlisting for reduced silohuette , high speed , camo, holoproyector, CC abilities, forward deployment, ... and such sweet stuff. Sorry to break your dreams guys, but all that technology applied to TAGs, in the Human Sphere, is beyond reach of non PanaOceanian developers. If it's not for PanO, Aleph or O12 it simply won't happen in a human faction.

    You want a TAG, why? If you justify me it's for TAG focused missions, keep in mind neither USAriadna, Caledonia and ISS have TAG either.
    And let's face it, a TAG in Hassassin wouldn't be much better than an Anaconda or Gecko. Maybe irregular or with frenzy, but none of the fancy stuff you want.
     
  6. HardDisk

    HardDisk Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, that doesn't make any sense, it's not the HB way of doing things.
     
  7. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    They are not secret. :p
     
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  8. Keyrott

    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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    Because it might be fun and interesting, and afford them a creative way to implement rules in a way we haven't seen yet. I bet you're a riot at parties.
     
  9. Keyrott

    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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    my bad
     
  10. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I bet they would get something pretty basic instead of a unique skill on a TAG. An HMG would give it a role in the faction, something like the new Anaconda profile. That could make it too prevalent though, they might do a Spitfire instead to make it compete with the HI instead of adding a new role.

    Unless, of course, someone at CB feels inspired that day. Then it could be anything!
     
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  11. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    I'm with Janzerker on this one. HB doesn't need a TAG, nor are they really available in Haqq.

    But if I were to go into the "but what if" territory, I'd first ask what HB would use a TAG for. It shouldn't be a giant metal assassin. I'd say it'd be a dedicated fire support platform, with heavy weaponry designed to cover the advance of Hassassin strike force, deal with defense strongpoints, etc.

    I'd base it on Ramhorn series, upgun it for its designated role, and add some basic defensive capability.

    Nizari, Mobile Support Units

    MOV 6-4 | CC 15 | BS 13 | PH 15 | WIP 14 | ARM 5 | BTS 6 | S 7

    ECM
    Manned, V:Courage, Mimetism

    AP HMG, HGL, Chain Colt/Smoke LGL
     
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  12. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    We call that Asawira Haris.

    I mean, it comes as no surprise that HB stuff is generally on the lighter side, right?

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    Seriously though, being more vulnerable in some aspects, they can be more capable than real light TAG in others. I'll easily take that as the heaviest stuff we'll ever get.

    And if I'll want an excuse to bring a heavy metal object to a gaming party, I'll play (hopefully soon to be released) RTF.
     
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  13. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    I'm rereading the thread post and I'm not seeing anything about if HB should get a TAG.
     
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  14. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    Fluff wise HB shouldn't get one. But IT'S wise, if there are scenarios that get extra points for a tag then HB should get one.

    If they do get one, keep it light. S6 profile would be enough. I'm not sure of the idea of a tag ninja. I would leave that play style for out s2 guys. Perhaps a sentry style with sensors and perhaps MSV2. It would fill the skill gap appropiately.
     
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  15. Cannon Fodder

    Cannon Fodder Well-Known Member

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    OK, this has been bugging me now. Here is my idea for a HB TAG.

    MOV 4-4
    CC 5
    BS 13
    WIP 11
    PH 14
    ARM 4
    BTS 6
    STR 2
    S 6

    MSV2, Sapper L2, Mechanized Deployment.
    Weapon 2x MK12, Electro Pulse

    New Skill: Sapper L2: when entering foxhole, gains suppression fire.

    Fluff: Hassasin Barhams primary modus operandi is threw indirect means and subterfuge. But there are times statements need to be made clear to those who do not comprehend their normal messages. The sentry TAG is deployed to make it clear, that the line must not be crossed.
     
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  16. loricus

    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Every faction that doesn't get a TAG could get an AVA1 Gecko with only access to a unique profile for the faction. Like Viral Rifle + LSG.
    This is NOT just a scheme to get more Gecko sculpts.
     
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  17. Keyrott

    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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    loricus Satellite Druid

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    Keyrott Nomad Handyman

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  20. ik3rian

    ik3rian Anti-Ariadnian Specialist

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    Well, i don't think we need TAG in HB. It would have to be better than Spitfire Asawira and still let us roll full core link.

    MOV 6-4 CC 15 BS 13 PH 14 WIP 14 ARM 5 BTS 6 W2

    Manned, Marksmanship L1, Mimetism
    HMG, Panzerfaust, Heavy Pistol, CCW

    or
    BS 14
    Manned, Mimetism (maybe)
    Viral HMG, Chaincolt
     
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