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Hassasins... to the 50%

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by Urobros, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    I duplicate the thema in the "non spanish" section XD for those who don't read the "Cervantes" languaje.

    Here put I my lists from the Interplanetario, if they are someone curious about it. The Hassasin players weren't us a majority. I'am really happy on how they work despite the fact I stay in the middle of the clasification table. But I think the lists are really Ok and I was who made some mistakes. This time I have not complains about the dice rolling.


    B List

    [​IMG] X7054_Urobros_Interplanetario_Lista_2
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] ASAWIRA (Fireteam: Haris) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 44)
    [​IMG] ASAWIRA Doctor Plus (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 45)
    [​IMG] MUYIB (Minelayer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. Antipersonnel Mines, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] MUYIB (Minelayer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. Antipersonnel Mines, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] MUYIB (Minelayer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. Antipersonnel Mines, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] MUYIB Lieutenant Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] MUYIB (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    [​IMG] MUYIB (X Visor) Heavy Rocket Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22)
    [​IMG] ÁYYĀR (Surprise Shot L2) Rifle + E/Mitter, D.E.P. / 2 Viral Pistols, CCW, Knife. (0 | 37)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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    AList


    [​IMG] X7054_Urobros_Interplanetario_Lista_1
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    [​IMG] AL-DJABEL Rifle + Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] HASSASSIN HUSAM YASBIR (Infiltration, Holoprojector L2) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] MUYIB Lieutenant Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] ASAWIRA Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] ASAWIRA (Fireteam: Haris) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 44)
    [​IMG] LASIQ Viral Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] FIDAY Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 31)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

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    If anyone want to say something, feel free, please.
     
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  2. Balewolf

    Balewolf It's all opinion

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    What missions did you use B list for? It uses a good mix or units that I always want to try to run, but always end of removing. How do you run it and how did it do?
     
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  3. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Except for the first mission, where I was forced to play the A List, I can choose one or other. The idea here is, that table is too open? Can`t hide properly? If yes, I will use B, else, are my rival an alien? Yes, I will use B.

    In Interplanteario I used B only in two missions: acquisition (against Onyx) and firefight (against Aleph), this time they didn't go very well, but I played with it this missions several times and I had succes. All the fault of my defeat come from the good play of my rivals and my mistakes, I had several. I din't follow the script I do usually and as result I fell.

    The plot is simple:

    Deploy the fireteams not very close but not too far amongs them. Avicena could be in the middle and have to mantain the intengrity of the army (if you don't activate dogged.

    The funny thing is that Avicena or the Ayar are always my latest miniature, depends on the rival. And always the people expects a fiday and deploy to don't be caught for him. So I obtain a kind of advantage in the deployement phase. The Ayar sometimes "is" a Barid Assault Hacker Device others a Govad HMG and others an Ayar with snipper rifle.

    The muyib fireteam have to support the most of the AROs, mainly at the play beggining. If I imagine that my rival have too many heavy troops, I deploy more hidden I can and put the E/maulers. Only the Heavy Rocket Launcher need to have LoS. If come something light probably a regular mine will be much better, but still, if they becomme isolated they can't recive more orders, so I can fight later with it. That is if the "light" avoid the HRL.

    The mainly attack piece is the Asawira fireteam, the two asawiras link with a minelayer muyib for protection. While the core mantains the deployment zone, the asawira run against the enemy an take positions in the center. If the enemy is to heavy for the spifire you can use the emauler and later shoot him. If they don't do anything you have "free" shots. If yet the armour of your foe is to big, you can approach into the CC and take it down with "your fists" (Martial arts 2 +3 Damage +1 Burst and CC21 can broke a TAG in two orders). When the haris is in the reactive turn with the emaulers and the mines have a good chance to survives or, at least, make the rival to expend a lot of orders. If they are some button to push the asawira doctor can do it and too heal the asawira spitfire or the muyib.

    Usually I'am really patient and if I go first I advance only a little and deploy more mines or e/maulers (I try to put them the most efficiently possible in order that the enemy can't do explode some with the same order, but not always is possible).

    For the second turn is the ayar wich have to do the specialist work. He can run tto the field taking advantage of the spots openned for the asawiras or the muyibs. The ayar isn't good to take down heavy targets, but yes with the light ones or medium, specially if he comes into the range of the virals pistols. I have to say that cost me a lot of time and effort include the ayar, but after a while I finally managed to find him a slot in my army lists. And now I have some happyness with him.

    If I resume the ideas you have a recipe like this:

    -Make you strenght in your deployment area (mines+e/maulers+fireteam).
    -Make the enemy loose a lot of orders (again mines+e/maulers+fireteam+holo) if he wants to shoot you.
    -Use your heavy tools: H.Rocket Launcher, Asawira Spitfire or Ayar.

    Don't understimate the power of the light shotgun or the rifle when you still have +1 to Burst and +1 to CD in the Core.

    If you desire know something more precise about some unit, tell me and I explain my self better on that.

    Best Regards
     
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  4. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    @Uroboros I noticed you've got Yasbir in list A. He's a profile I always have trouble fitting into a list. How do you like you to use him?
     
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  5. Urobros

    Urobros Well-Known Member

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    Well, it wasn't easy find him a spot into the lists, but after a year playing almost every tournament with hassasin I managed to understand this profile.

    I use it most of the time the infiltrator but not always use this hability.

    If the rival deploy a lot of mines or crazykoalas or madtraps Yasbir is a really good cleaner. With one or two orders the holoechos can reach the most of the deployabled weapons and make them explode without risk. And them the fidays can go through the enemy lines unharmed. Even if you are sure that the enemy don't have any TO with LoS you can use a coordinate in order to put the fidays in position, awaiting for the free path.

    For me is a support to my fidays and my farzans.

    But not always use it in this way. Sometimes I deploy him inside my deployement zone, but not as Yasbir, yes I pay extra cost for the infiltrator profile only because give me a lot of flexibility. If the enemy has IP or TAGs I deploy Yasbir like an Assault Hacker Device Barid. This made the enemy avoid the ZoC from "your" hacker or he send to you his assasins hackers, the troup or the pitcher, however he had lost two or three orders trying to put away a hacker wich really don't exists. And sometimes it is some CC expert who apears to put down the barid... and become in Yasbir: Surprise!!

    Others I deploy him as an Ayar. The cost it isn't much different so really could be an Ayar. That is the funny thing.

    So, the use is basically:
    -Infiltrator as fiday-farzan support you can, for example, make that mine explode with the first movement of the holo and in the second order launch smoke. Two things for the price of one ;)
    -Inside the deployement area as a tool of deceive.

    Sometimes, but isn't his main mission, I use it like one more fiday and send him into the CC or use his surpresive shot only because him is in a better position.

    I hope you find some inspiration in my words.
     
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