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Hacker Fragility

Discussion in 'White Company' started by theresponsibleone, Mar 17, 2023.

  1. theresponsibleone

    theresponsibleone Active Member

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    I’m looking at getting back to my White Company and I’m coming up against one of the big puzzlers CB gave us with the unit selection and Fireteam options for White Company - the fact our hackers can die to a sneeze.

    We have a really solid Repeater network - double Guilang plus Peacemaker can gum up the whole midfield. But then the question arises - what do I hack with?

    The Danavas is a solid choice, but is only BTS 3 and can’t join a Fireteam so can’t gain a Firewall Mod from a Tinbot or Sixth Sense.

    Valerya can link but is BTS 0. Adding an Orc Tinbot -3 to Fusiliers isn’t hugely useful as she can’t stack that with the attacks coming back through the Repeaters.

    That leaves the Jujak Tinbot -6 but that would necessitate a HI Core to gain the Sixth Sense needed to handle Stealth sneaking through the Repeater network.

    The Haidao has the exact same problems Valerya does, mitigated ever so slightly by NWI.

    Nokken and Tiger Soldier Hackers seem good but you’re buying a whole expensive package with both. Guilang Hackers are fine, but is then sacrificing the Minelayer coverage.

    Orc and Nisse Hackers also exist. I would be tempted by a Nisse Hacker for Countermeasures tagging along in a midfield link - the list of Classifieds it can do is huge.

    We can clearly put up a strong repeater net and in theory run some friend-killer Guided lists - but I don’t think White Company is the best faction to take for that sort of play, so I think Guided is one of our tools we can use rather than something to build the list around.

    What I’m curious about is how other people are approaching the Hacking game. What are you taking? How heavily are you leaning into your Hackers? Are you protecting them or just leaving them to die if they run into the wrong list? Answers will obviously be subjective and vary based on what people locally to you take.
     
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  2. LeGweg

    LeGweg Lucky dice roller

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    If you do not have single models making the job by themselves, playing several hackers to saturate the hacknet is a good idea.
    Every army isn't able to bring Interventors, Asuras or Anathematics into the battlefield.
     
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  3. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    Even when you have high tier hackers, extra low tier ones help a lot.
     
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  4. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    That fragility is pretty subjective IMO: The fact that you -have- Tinbot -6 and -3 choices is nice, and you have a good pitcher-toting hacker who can wildcard in with either, plus passable native hackers in those teams.

    Yes, you need a 4-man Core link to get Sixth Sense on said hacker: this is normal. Playing Jujaks against other forces with nasty hacking or hackbles makes sense anyways.

    Otherwise Valerya in a Haris with a Jujak Tinbot may not have Sixth Sense, but is still decently resilient. Nisse the same in said link but minus Pitcher… so IMO only a decent option if you have taken those Peacemakers or a Danavas/Valerya elsewhere. Forward or shootable repeaters are pretty key to getting value out of you hackers.

    The Valerya/Jujak Haris is what I see in most lists. What’s your opinion of it as a user?
     
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  5. theresponsibleone

    theresponsibleone Active Member

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    I’m really not sure. There’s clearly utility there, with a good gun and a flexible hacker who can do objectives.

    But a Haris is only 3 models, and you’re using a whole slot to overcome the weaknesses of one of the other models in the Haris.

    I much prefer gun / double specialist, or gun /
    specialist / CC threat to including a “filler” piece to add hacking resistance.

    I’m not ruling the build out, but every time I click to include a Tinbot Jujak in a link it annoys me…
     
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