Hello. I'm quite new to Infinity, and I'm trying to learn the rules by reading them, and applying them to my games as I go. I play Aleph / OSS, so I have come across the somewhat complicated Ghost: Jumper L1 / LZ skills, which state (in the big yellow REMEMBER box) "G: Jumper L1 / LZ grand its user the G: Remote Presence Special Skill". Am I to understand that my Proxies and Apsara then have the V: Courage skill, and no Cube? (I assume the rest of the skill is irrelevant as they do not possess a STR attribute). Don't the Proxies need a Cube to be a host for the Post-Human (per the lore)? A game-related consequence of having no Cube is no Command Token Reroll when the Doctor is trying to patch them up. Are there others I should be aware of? I honestly find it a bit strange that they nested this skill with the G: Jumper rules, as rules-wise, they don't quite fit how I envision the Post-Humans, but I'm not the designer, so...
Posthumans have transcended the need for cubes, rather than having their personality confined to a single body they're distributed across the infosphere and their consciousness can jump from body to body at will. In essence, a cube is like backing up your computer to a recovery partition on your hard disk drive, but Posthumans have backed themselves up to the cloud.
Yep. All the other things from Remote Presence require STRucture instead of Wounds, so those won't apply. It's been years since I started asking why not remove the call to Remote Presence, and give Courage to the Mk4, Mk3 and (now) the Apsaras (since No Weapon Incapacitation includes courage). But for Dart XD
That could be in case of future profiles or use of the rule actually. Just like there being Guard L4, but no profile with that.
Yeah, that ran quite dry withthe release of the Apsaras XD As for Guardian... so many people is calling for its removal, and the unification of the Martial Arts/Striga/Whatevs tables, for simplicity and reduction of tables, I'd bet the only reason they keep it is the rebasing of Andromeda, since Voronin was sold with a 25mm base for being used as a civilian :S
Guard doesn't require the model to be S5, though, arguably this is just a coincidence just like how having 2 wounds is a coincidence for HI.
So how exactly Remote presence with a unit with W attribute works ? RAW it partially allows Engineer to actually heal it (and reroll).
For all intents and purposes all Ghost: Remote Presence (such as Aleph Proxies or Tohaa SymbioBeasts) does for a unit with wounds is: 1. Grants Courage 2. Makes them vulnerable to Goodnight hacking program. Everything else in Remote Presence requires the model to have STR. And you can't reroll Doctor rolls because Doctor is not the skill "Engineer" and Doctor does not "repair" damage.
Funny thing the engineer + medic combo might have some way in RAW... Have you noticed how engineers don't list Ghost:Mnemonica as the kind of things they can spend a Command token to rerroll (so the Avatar & Skiavoros get no rerroll), but in Command Tokens it says you can spend one to rerroll an engineer's test on *any* troop with Ghost, which suddenly includes the Avatar & Skiavoros? XD
No. Underline for emphasis "Additionally, when using Engineer (or other Special Skills or piece of Equipment that state so explicitly) to repair a trooper with G: Remote Presence, you may expend one Command Token to reroll a failed WIP Roll." Engineer skill only deals with the Engineer special skill (duh...). Command Token usage specifically calls for the "Special Skill Doctor on a troop with a Cube" which Ghost: Jumper specifically says the trooper does not have. Completely different debate, but suffice to say, the Engineer skill agrees with Command Token rules. Ghost: Remote Presence is the odd one out, which isn't strange since Remote Presence should only deal with Remote Presence.
I am to assume this is another case of Spanish text not align with the English text? In the background question Post humans do not have a cube because they are not uploaded on the body but manipulating proxy bodies from the battlenet a true representation of remote presence.
Yep. In english it reads "by declaring Engineer". In Spanish, it translates to "The engineer can, by suceeding in a WIP roll,...". The difference being that in English the subject of the phrase is the skill engineer, but in Spanish the subject of the phrase is the actual trooper... which can have both engineer and doctor in Aleph XD. Of course, following that, the target troop would get 1 STR point repaired, with a max of the amount to STR points the troop has. So yeah, max 0, thus why I did not insisted 2 years ago when I asked. But Dart! And the Apsaras! XD
Apsaras are not Posthumans. Jumper LZ is a different skill than L1 and nothing about it implies that the users of said skills are similar
Dart uses a single body with a Cube 2.0 this is her preference as she learnt her combat skills as an Aristo. Apsaras remote control nearby Remotes but their "mind" is still contained in their Lhost, they're more like Tunguskan Puppet Masters with picture-in-picture.
Background-wise... Why the cube, however? And in theory only Specops have now the Cube 2.0 (new Specops rules), so I'm assuming further Army updates. I *hope* Dart has not a cube only so she is vulnerable to a Sepsitor, frankly... Or because CB has decided to keep the "character suicide if KO vs CA" for Aleph named guys, which would mean no one using characters against the CA in campaign mode (I'm talking from experience) XD
