For lack of a better idea where this should go...

I disagree with you. They disparaged CB on public social media sites. Used CB IP to disparage the company in Videos on youtube and also break copy-write and tried to pass off a home-brew Faq as official using their Warcor status, they also decided to release it after COB on a Friday to minimise blow back. I mean the minimum requirement was for them to be stripped and banned as far as I can see.

 

Sorry but you have no idea what I have contributed to the game. Please don't assume anything. Also there is more to this story than you know I think. I mean there is a whole forum section we arent privy to where I think some stuff was said that shouldn't have been said.

 

I would have thought I would have got a ban before those two (or four, whatever).

 

Not an argument. You said he has done more for the community than you or I i was just stating that is probably not true thats all.

 

Given that I was away for the weekend and became aware of the whole drama only after seeing CB's statement - wtf exactly happened? From what I understand the main problem was with the video the Warcors in question posted on yt (I think nazroth was the main creator) - which was suggesting the faq was at least semi-official - and subsequent shitstorm in the comments? I have no idea what happened there, it was already taken down by the time I wanted to check it.

I agree that banning people from the forums, especially for something they've posted somewhere else, is going too far. From the comments I saw many people in the Polish community had become pretty bitter about the game (which might or might not say much, as people here are bitter about everything most of the time).

One thing I wouldn't say is that CB's reaction was a form of collective judgement and appeasing the mob. But I'd really want to know more before taking a stance.

 

There were threads posted in several places on the forums too. The response wasn't very positive here, either.

 

@Stiopa I don't believe CB reacted to appease the mob. I think they reacted in such a manner because the offending party, (especially those who were apparently banned [I only know for sure that some lost Warcor status]), were actively tarnishing CB's public image. Whether you like CB (and how they have handled past situations) or not, my best guess points to this.

Some may not think the actions taken warrant a ban, but a company should defend their brand.

Personally, I wish CB had put an end to it sooner, (I would have in their position), but I understand they are a small company. However, I do agree with many who play Infinity the Game and believe that CB should improve upon their rules governance strategy. Especially concerning FAQs and community relations.

 

Wait... They banned them from the forums? As in the public ones? I thought it was only a removal of Warcor status and access to the secret Warcor forum.

As a mostly impartial observer who has no idea what happened on the warcor forums, my impression is that CB panicked and immediately went for the nuclear option of punishing whoever was involved in making the FAQ. It's not complete and probably partly wrong, but it's definitely not a good impression. It suggests that Warcors have to be uncritical shills and nothing more, and/or that fan initiative is only accepted when it helps grow the business.

Also, the Uprising was one isolated clusterfuck. This is a second incident with no advantage to any side whatsoever*. It suggests a worrying pattern.

* I like the way someone summed up: "Tldr: Corvus Belli, warcors, and players compete to see who is worse on a regular basis"

 

If they were outright banned as opposed to losing their Warcor status, I think that might be a little over the top. Even though I was vehemently opposed to what they were doing, I'm 100% sure it was coming from a good place. And I feel a little bad for them too, because I was so vocal about my opposition and I was very liberal with my use of swear words. At one point I basically dared the mods to hit me with a banhammer. Didn't even get a PM warning...

I do hope CB is drowning in shame right now, though. Most of the issues in that document could have been answered by them in less than a week. We already do most of the work for them in the rules forum, they just need to tell us which of the two or three interpretations are right and issue an answer. And I hope that they're ashamed that they punished Warcors, and that the reason they had to do that is because they can't even be bothered to make rulings.

 

Minimum? Just for curiosity's sake, what were the harsher options? Lawsuits? Beheading? Flaying? Burning at the stake?

And who exactly are you to claim a position of implied authority? Because as far as I can see, you're just another random forum user.

Just like you weren't quick to assume malicious intent behind posting the FAQ on Friday, as opposed to say, Friday being the day when the week workload ends and people have more free time for hobby-related stuff? I'm not certain about it myself, but it seems a much simpler explanation than assuming conspiracy.

What did you just say about assuming?

 

*moved content to previous post*

 

CB's resolution of the situation seemed perfectly reasonable and even-handed to me.

 

That's pretty much what I was saying, with the caveat that yes, I feel that banning them from the forums was too harsh. But - again - I wasn't able to read the offending discussions, so I'm not able to formulate an informed opinion on it. It very well might be that it was justified, especially given that from what I'm hearing the whole release was presented as getting the game out of some predicament CB put it in, and that some personal attacks on CB staff were involved.

See, while I understand that this ban comes as a shock, it's pretty much the indiscriminate use of language like "uncritical shills" that prepared the ground for that. Let's be honest, there's a lot of that flying around, after any real or imagined slight, no matter how minor. "New sectorial isn't exactly 100% what I wanted! CB sucks, and everyone that defends them is a hopeless fanboy!" And the fact that after this particular issue some people on fb go along the line "CB screwed up by not releasing FAQ on regular basis, and then punished people that were trying to fix this" - which from what I see completely misses the point - doesn't make me particularly sympathetic to their cause.

 

Except that it's exactly what's visible to the general public, because of scarce of unclear information. If there was actual doxxing or threats leveled at CB employees (which I myself would give someone a swift kick in the ass for), we don't know it except that it was something unacceptable/objectionable/other term for "thing that we didn't like". So the ignorant populace is left to wonder what exactly happened. Did those punished actually dox or threaten CB employees? Maybe only one of them did that, and the rest got punished because of association? Did CB do it to protect their copyright/assets? Or because those Warcors didn't toe the party line laid out on the secret Warcor forums? We don't know.

 

I assumed this in the beginning, but I think it all just got out of hand.