I'll be heading to a tournament in a couple months and two of the missions are Acquisition and Capture and Protect. I'm wondering if this is even remotely viable since I've only played a few games and am trying to find what works for me still. The idea was to Haris the Asawiras with a Barid and a Ghulam but other than that not too sure. Tac Aware 1.0 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 2 GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 17) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39) BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mines, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) ASAWIRA (Doctor [+3]) AP Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) GROUP 2 2 3 SUNDUQBUT (Neurocinetics [+1B]) Viral Rifle, Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 49) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) SHUJAE Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer, E/M Mines / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9) 5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Tac Aware 1.0 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 2 GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 17) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39) BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mines, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) ASAWIRA (Doctor [+3]) AP Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) GROUP 2 2 3 SUNDUQBUT (Neurocinetics [+1B]) Viral Rifle, Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 49) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) SHUJAE Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer, E/M Mines / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) 5 SWC | 296 Points Open in Infinity Army Just realized I clicked the wrong Daylami, meant these guys
It's certainly viable! Especially for your first tournament while you're figuring out what you like. So, all these suggestions are optional: - HB really likes a guided missile bot (GML) to go with your linked Pitchers. Conversely, your Ghulam missile launcher isn't doing much. I'd swap it out for the GML. - The Nadhir Flammenspeer is strictly better than the Shujae, for the same points. - If at all possible, fit in McMurrough. He's the best thing in HB.
All truths I'd also suggest swapping the Farzan FO to CoC, at that point it's very low opportunity cost and makes your list a lot more resilient. The Ghulam Missile you can easily cut imo.
I've taken the suggestion and tweaked it. Not sure if I should be concerned with the maxing out orders or having two haris but that's what I went for at the moment. Tac Aware 1.1 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39) GHULAM Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) ASAWIRA (Doctor [+3]) AP Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36) BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 26) WARCOR (Sixth Sense) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 2 3 3 MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) SUNDUQBUT (Neurocinetics [+1B]) Viral Rifle, Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 49) SHAYTANIYAH REMOTE Missile Launcher / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 16) McMURROUGH Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP + DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Looks good! The only final suggestion I would make would be to swap McMurrough into group 1, putting either the Warcor or the Daylami in group 2. Once McMurrough gets into the opponent's backline, he can really go to town with a full order pool behind him. Let us know how it goes!
Consider Ghazi with jammer, they're incredible at defending the DZ if you go second and at defending the mid-table if you go first (they can even get there with their own impetuous orders). If you can save a point, the 27 points Fiday is significantly better than the 26 points Fiday imo, because the Rifle lets you engage things outside of template range.
Would dropping the Warcor be worth it to upgrade the Fiday? I'm not really losing a regular order in the process.
I think the extra irregular (that can be converted to a regular) is probably worth more. I just realised you have 6 linkable Fireteam member, you can freely cut the basic Ghulam for something cheaper and get the points there. I would get a Fanous instead. I don't even reach 5 man link in my HB lists because I find them hard to maneuver and the bonuses for 5 aren't super interesting (because it's a mixed link anyway). So having 6 is def too many imo.
Sorry for the necromancy. The tournament's been postponed but I've gotten several games in and have settled on two lists. The first one I have a little more experience with but have had some success with the second one especially not minding if I go second. Tac Aware 1.0 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 2 1 McMURROUGH Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP + DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 26) SUNDUQBUT (Neurocinetics [+1B]) Viral Rifle, Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 49) GHULAM (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) YARA HADDAD (Strategic Deployment) AP Marksman Rifle / Heavy Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 28) FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) CORSAIR BASHI BAZOUK Rifle, Light Shotgun, E/M Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) GROUP 2 1 4 DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) 1.5 SWC | 297 Points Open in Infinity Army List 2 Any Given Sundie ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 1 SUNDUQBUT (Neurocinetics [+1B]) Viral Rifle, Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 49) SUNDUQBUT (Neurocinetics [+1B]) Viral Rifle, Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 49) FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 26) FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 26) McMURROUGH Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP + DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) GHULAM (Lieutenant) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 11) GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle, Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) GROUP 2 5 DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) 2 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
They look fun and are definitely skewed to short ranged fighting. An option for the Sundie list is to change the Najjarun for a monstrucker and double Nasmat. What is the mission line-up for the Tournament? What is your plan for dealing with TAGs and long range AROs?
It seems HB sectorial lists, son no Monstrucker avaible for him. Najjarun is the cheapest engineer aviable. Cheers.
Thank you. I am a fan of Any Given Sundie and it should serve you well. I would recommend some edits Tac Aware 1.0 to add an additional Camo specialist and some anti armor firepower. I was worried about the limited number of specialist in the previous iteration as you will need them for Acquisition and Capture and Protect: Tac Aware 1.0 Edit ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 2 1 McMURROUGH Chain Rifle(+1B), Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP + DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 27) FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 26) ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) YARA HADDAD (Strategic Deployment) AP Marksman Rifle / Heavy Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 28) FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mines, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 23) CORSAIR BASHI BAZOUK Rifle, Light Shotgun, E/M Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) GROUP 2 1 4 DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24) 2.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
I get the specialist requirement for Acquisition but am I reading something wrong for Capture and Protect? I thought anyone can grab the beacons and specialists were not as important. Either way I have saved the edited list and will give it a try although I feel weird not running an sunduqbut, but then again I may be leaning on them too much.
I like it. Double fiday mcmurrough and asawira spitfire seem enough for active turn order spending, while the second group should be a good turn one defense. It looks nice and fun to me, I think I'll try something like this in the near future. I'm not very comfortable with spending only half of my SWC though, but in my latest experiments with Hassassin it's something quite common (and I do not know how to solve it yet).
I use for some tournament a list that easily could be 0 cap, but it is 1.5 because I put an asawira spitfire. But that is all. Hassasin can or not to use full SWC. Nothing wrong in any case.
