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First Infinity List V3.0 - Final Thoughts

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Tyrendian, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. Tyrendian

    Tyrendian New Member

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    So, I've been working on my first solo infinity list, and have been looking at some feedback. I was wondering if anyone had any final thoughts/criticisms for this:

    [​IMG] Steel Phalanx
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    [​IMG] HECTOR Lieutenant Plasma Rifle, Nanopulser, Stun Grenades + 1 TinBot A / Heavy Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 71)
    [​IMG] ACMON Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, Nimbus Grenades, D-Charges / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] DACTYL Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle, Adhesive-Launcher, Nimbus Grenades / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] ALKÊ Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] THORAKITES (360º Visor) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] THORAKITES (360º Visor) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 40)
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON OFFICER (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 35)
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] ATALANTA MULTI Sniper Rifle + TinBot E (Spotter) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    General idea:
    I know the SSL2 from 4 man teams is valuable, but like the utility of 1 more team. Basically we have 2 multipurpose teams that cover all the range bands pretty well, contain a specialist, and will push/contest objectives. The ODD team is going to be more survivable vs most things, meanwhile hektor's unit can trouble shoot, has a number of dogged specialists, and has a shot vs TAGs. Nisaie's unit can either hold down the backfield or serve as a roadblock/dedicated combat unit to do some initial trading. Atalana obviously has visor/ARO strength and the potential for active turn gunfighting.

    My concerns: no hackers of either variety and how do I deal with an alpha strike. A TAG rampage can really mess up virtually everything in this list with only one unit that can reliably trade.

    Questions:
    Replace Nisiae with an HMG thorakati and write off the 3rd fireteam? It would allow me to upgrade other Thorakati to specialists of various types and have a better long range weapon/anti sniper platform in the backfield.

    Viability of the list/biggest threats?

    Are the nimbus grenades any good?

    Best uses for Nisaie's unit/generic commentary?
     
  2. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    You are using empty shells, essentially throwing 2 flunkies behind a character, and once the character falls there is no way to re-form the fireteams (you need an Enomotarchos of the right kind to create the fireteam). You don't need engineers for anything in SP (aside from reparing a Total Reaction, for which a Thorakite Engineer is more than enough), meaning the Dactyl fireteam is quite overpriced for what it does (Hector covers enough range bands by himself).
    Also, you don't need hackers in the SP. There is only one able to link (the Myrmidon hacker, who has MA3 => she has stealth!) and Scylla (who is more a deployment vehicle for two heavy flamethrowers). SP hacking ways are the same Ariadna uses: pummel that thing to scraps.
    Enemy Alpha strikes is the bane of any Steel Phalanx list, usually dealt with a combo of Teucer + smoke + Phoenix + Total Reaction. that's why you make 4 men fireteam, not only to absorb casualties but because you can react to enemy fire through your own smoke you used to dodge the previous attack.
    Atalanta is a hunter, not an ARO piece. The SP ARO Agemas are Teucer and the Missile Launcher Agema.

    Sure! Remove the Dactils or make them a Duo of Acmon+Dactyl, then use Hector to create the Fireteam Enomotarchos with the Thorakites, or forget about linking the thorakites. The only troops able to make a Thorakitai fireteam are Alke, Hector, and Thrasimedes (Enomotarchos profile with light rocket launcher).

    If you made this list, you either have little experience playing with SP or have fought against unexperienced opponents, so I would bet against you (no offense intended).

    Only against fireteams to negate the +1Burst to ARO. They would be useful for a troop with a Burst 1 weapon attacking a Fireteam'ed enemy, or Atalanta having to face 2 linked MSV2 enemies (a Bao haris/core for example, which is seldom used).

    Nike is useless, unless you need a 2nd Thorakites Enomotarchos fireteam and don't have access to Hector, or need a 3rd thorakites fireteam with access to Hector. I have suggested to change her into a Thorakitai subofficer with AVA2 and no character classification, because of the Paradiso campaign rules about interaction between CA and Aleph (essentially, Aleph characters that die in campaign ignore death by retirement, but if they do against CA they roll only once instead of twice to see if they survived, meaning you can run out of Thorakitai Enomotarchos).

    Well, she has a niche: very short on points, need a cheap Lt and don't mind the SWC cost.
     
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