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Faith in Securitate

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by BlazyCrane, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. BlazyCrane

    BlazyCrane Member

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    So I have reading list building posts and I have been wondering why a Securitate Core and Hollow Man Harris isn’t more popular in lists?

    I get the Hollow Men have great stats and weapons. But I feel like they are too expensive as a core and would function well as a Harris.

    Am I Crazy?
     
  2. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    no you are not, There is a thread around here somewhere (Tunguska beyond the classics) that covers essentially that style of build.
     
  3. Snowball

    Snowball Well-Known Member

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    It’s totally doable, though I think the special with the Krizas is a bit too expensive and clunky to build around personally. But I do like the 2 hollowman with the stempler FTO option to keep things a little cheaper.

    Here is a list I would run for most anything, but it does lack specialist variety so it probably wouldn’t do well for highly classified and countermeasures.

    Jurisdictional Command of Tunguska──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22) SECURITATE Feuerbach / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 22) SECURITATE (Repeater) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) HOLLOW MEN (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32) HOLLOW MEN Spitfire, Chain-colt / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (2 | 36) STEMPLER ZOND FTO (Super-Jump) Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 18) MARY PROBLEMS Hacker (Forward Deployment L1) Submachine Gun + Zapper, Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30) INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (0 | 25) HECKLER Combi Rifle, Jammer, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) PUPPET MASTERS (Minelayer) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14) TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
  4. BlazyCrane

    BlazyCrane Member

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    I did some net building a little bit ago built a list that i wouldn't feel bad about taking to a casual game. Probably doesn't play to Tunguska's strengths but I gets me 13 orders, which is something a lot of the more popular lists, I see are lacking. But that may be my Haqq experience coming out.

    First List
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8
    KRIZA BORAC HMG / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 54)
    SECURITATE MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 21)
    SECURITATE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    HECKLER Combi Rifle, Jammer, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    HECKLER Combi Rifle, Jammer, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    HOLLOW MEN (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)
    HOLLOW MEN (Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    HOLLOW MEN Missile Launcher, Chain-colt / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (2 | 35)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  5. Ghost87

    Ghost87 Member

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    Unfortunately the Stempler is not valid in the HM Haris as the Stempler is only in the special core. The only thing possible would be a three-man core :(

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  6. Snowball

    Snowball Well-Known Member

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    DOH! I missed that! Oh well, specialist BSG instead and drop a transducer and the warcor :)
     
  7. Ghost87

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    This also eliminates a weak point in the team ;)

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  8. BlazyCrane

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    So I just threw this list together that sets the Securitate on their own in their own group to lt them act defensively but also give them the ability to move to button push in the Active turn .And with a Puppet Master in group 1, it will prevent losing orders if it goes first. I am building this as a 'take-on-all-comers' first list to minimize purchases. What do you all think?
    First List
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    PUPPET MASTERS (Minelayer) Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    PUPPETBOT (Marksmanship L1) AP Marksman Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 14)
    PUPPETBOT (Marksmanship L1) AP Marksman Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 14)
    PUPPETBOT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (0 | 11)
    MARY PROBLEMS Hacker (Forward Deployment L1) Submachine Gun + Zapper, Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 30)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    GRENZER (Fireteam: Haris) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26)
    INTERVENTOR Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    GRENZER Spitfire / Pistol, Breaker Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 30)
    CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    SECURITATE MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 21)
    SECURITATE (Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    SECURITATE Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    SECURITATE Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    SECURITATE Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

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  9. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    @BlazyCrane you need something in your second combat group. You have essentially an immobile link that won’t be doing anything in it's active turn and when the sniper dies, you basically have a dead order pool, while the primary order fights for the rest of your orders.
     
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  10. BlazyCrane

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    Yeah i guess you are right. I feel very limited compared to building a list for Hassassins or Dahshat. Most of the list for Tungaska I see in this forum are single group 10 order lists that is something I don't like. I feel more comfortable with ~13-15 orders if i can manage it.
     
  11. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    Well, I’ve had some success with “order spam” Tunguska in the past, but it’s very tough to pull off because you really can’t afford to lose pieces, however the Hecklers and Raol have been all stars for me. :)

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  12. PillageIdiot

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    I actually really like this list. Be warned that without smoke or an HMG it can get stopped cold by a strong ARO on a low-terrain-density table. If you can find a way to stick in a Zondnautica or Perseus and maybe swap out Mary Problems for a regular Interventor (for white noise unless Mary Problems already has it then nm) then you've basically got an answer in your toolbox for almost anything. Finding room for a Securitate HMG is another way to go, but you'll still run into ARO's you can't bully and can't line of sight block (linked Kamau Sniper).

    EDIT: I forgot you already have an interventor in the grenzer link so nm on the white noise.