Engaging with deployables

Practically, no.

But it gets weird.

You become Engaged with Enemies. Enemies are troopers. Hostile Deployable Weapons are not Troopers ergo you can't become Engaged with them.

However, you can count as Engaged with them if you want to CC them due to an FAQ.

The easiest way to play that is that you don't actually become Engaged with them ever. Shennagins ensues if you play it as actually becoming Engaged.

 

While I am sure this violates some form of deployment rule, all I can find for now is that you can only be Engaged with enemy Troopers and a Deployablr Repeater is not a Trooper.

 

It doesn't. You can deploy Deployables in B2B with things (unless specifically prevented).

So they're B2B, not Engaged but can be treated as Engaged if your opponent wants to CC them.

 

Can treat them as Engaged in the active turn, yes, but they won't be in the Engaged *State* so you can't get them to lose LOF and they can't claim the Failure Category MOD if you shoot them.

 

Why would that reveal it? This hasn't been fulfilled:

• The Camouflaged trooper enters base to base contact with a model.

 

Depends.

Fast Pandas, Madtraps and Crazy Koalas are figures (which are models with a profile).

Drop Bears and Repeaters are markers, so are not models.

Mines (of all types) are deployed as Camouflage and Hiding Markers but are themselves markers.

It's kind of irrelevant though: there's a general principle that nothing can be B2B with a Camouflage and Hiding Marker. This is why when a TO model leaves HD in a position occupied by another model it is placed "1mm" away from it. Technically this is expressed as nothing can Move into B2B or be deployed (referring to deployment) in B2B of a Camouflage or Hiding marker; but it's entirely reasonable to extend it to this circumstance.

@Mahtamori not only active, CC Attack is a valid vs a Koala in B2B that activates. But I agree with you and still don't think that would place you into the Engaged state so it's extremely edge case (to do it vs a freshly deployed Koala you'd need Possession involved to make it work).

 

Look at the cancellation clauses for camouflaged, and think about what happens when a trooper deploys a mine in base contact with itself.

Between that and the FAQs which allow moving through friendly Camo markers, you pretty much have to take the Camo cancellation clause as "whatever is in the Camo Marker state causes itself to enter base contact with an enemy."

 

Some are represented with models rather than tokens, but it's irrelevant - the Camouflaged Trooper has to enter base contact with a model, not a model enter base contact with the Camouflaged Trooper.