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[EN] JSA is live!

Discussion in 'Japanese Secessionist Army' started by gamma ray, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. gamma ray

    gamma ray Well-Known Member
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    As a long time CA/Onyx player who dabbled in Tohaa and NCA a while ago, taking up JSA is going to be a massive shift in my usual play style and list building. I'm sure I'll find something comfortable after playing a few times!

    At this moment in time, after playing with Army, these are certainly *very* attractive to me...

    Ryuken-9 SMG - FD2, ODD and Minelayer for so little points is not something I've ever had access to before. It just seems awesome for the cost. I can see myself taking 2 in every list.
    Daiyokai Harris - A B5 Red Fury on a 2+1/2W CC unit is the sort of firepower I can get behind.
    Keisotsu/Kempetai Core - I Love redundancy in my links, and the ability to mix up the members appeals to me a lot.
    Motorbikes, any of them! - Looking forward to playing with them as I've never had access, however they've always seemed incredibly fragile.

    I can already see where my playstyle is going to have to change though. I almost always take a core link with a HMG in it for high burst/BS target hunting such as enemy links, snipers etc. With the Keisotsu the only unit I can see that can link up a HMG, I'll likely be looking at TO/ODD MOD stacking to get the job done.

    What're your thoughts on things you're looking forward to, gaps that you can see etc?
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Holy cow, look at those Tanko!

    Less CC (22+MA2)
    Still BS13

    Mono and Shock CCWs (can use one or the other, no dual wield)

    Blitzen+LSG
    Blitzen+SMG
    Flammenspeer+Contender
    Missile Launcher

    Edit: KHD Aragoto *swoon*
     
  3. gamma ray

    gamma ray Well-Known Member
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    I've already made a mental note on them. They're a beast for ARO duty in my mind!
     
  4. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Aragoto KHD
    Domaru also costs +1 point for Dual Wield Shock CCW
    Yeah, those Tanko are going to be even more dominant than Haramaki were. *makes mental note of buying at least 5*
    AHA! AVA 3 on Tanko, that's significant and fewer than Haramaki!
    FO Ninja
    Rui Shi for JSA is +0,5 SWC
     
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  5. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Interestingly enough, Domaru having extensive EM/Shock makes them more lethal to normal units, but the awkward DA/Shock is the only source that a Domarumaki link will have of Antimateriel CCW outside of Neko, meaning missions where such is important is going to have this unit even more strongly favouring using missile launchers to solve that problem.
     
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  6. Yasashii Fuyu

    Yasashii Fuyu Well-Known Member

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    Holy crap...those Tankos O.O can they be for real? Monofilament and they still have the Missile Launcher and BS 13? Damn this is sweet!

    Also Forward Observer Ninja Profile
    Specialist Saito Togane
    Regular Musashi

    Damn I can't wait to play with this!


    Sadly our remotes are more expensive in SWC Costs (Rui Shi, Total Reaction HMG both cost 1.5 SWC)
     
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  7. Yasashii Fuyu

    Yasashii Fuyu Well-Known Member

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    Or the Killer hacker ninja with DA CC Weapon maybe, but I have to say, Domaru Dual Wield comes unexpected and is awesome! ^^
     
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  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    I meant for that particular fireteam ;)

    But regular Mushashi can also join and be a lightly armoured Neko on steroids, so one more source.
     
  9. Yasashii Fuyu

    Yasashii Fuyu Well-Known Member

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    I mean...just....boom baby....

    [​IMG] Japanese Secessionist Army
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    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] DOMARU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, E/M Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36)
    [​IMG] OYAMA Lieutenant Chain Rifle, E/M Grenades / Breaker Pistol, AP CCW, EXP CCW. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23)

    3 SWC | 151 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
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  10. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    Between the ru shi, unit 9 and Harris tax I suspect swc is going to be tight
     
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  11. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant
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    I'm happy. Fun, thematic, competitive. The real winner here, in my mind, is for the midfield game: Ryuken-9 SMG, the changes/tweaks to ninjas and bikes, and the new Oniwaban SMG... All great. I can't wait to develop that into a real ITS competitive module for play.

    The changes to the Bushi are going to be harder to assess without play and practice, because there's a lot of changes and variables at work. I like the potential of the Daiyokai as the big heavy anchor for so many light midfield troops, but will have to see how he handles on the table.

    Tanko kind of broke even. SMG is a good weapon for them, so is Flammenspeer. But nerfs to CC, MA, AVA are all tough hits, plus they gained Regular Impetuous for a unit that will always be linked, to keep their cost roughly the same as Haramaki despite the stat decreases and loss of abilities... Tricky. Won't stop them from being used a ton though, a find unit.

    Keisotsu at AVA5? Really hoping this is an error and not truth. I own 12 of them.

    Rui Shi at 1.5 SWC actually hurts, because there are so many fun things to use .5 SWC for in a JSA list. Also means that Keisotsu LT, Keisotsu Hacker and Rui Shi all total up to 3 SWC, which is quite rough. I liked having both the Rui Shi and a Keisotsu link as a strong firebase, so that's going to be tougher to do now if AVA5 and 1.5 SWC on the Rui Shi are both here to say.
     
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  12. Yasashii Fuyu

    Yasashii Fuyu Well-Known Member

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    Keisotsu AVA 5 is odd indeed. I personally LOVE the Tanko, they do so many things that I like it's almost criminal they are only AVA 3... but I guess they had to compensate their power somehow. Sure MA 2 instead of 3 is a bit sad, but in exchange they now have Monofilament weapons...I'd trade for that any day I think...but then I am traumatised by facing a Jotum last Event, so maybe I'm a bit biased :-P

    Remind me...do impetuous troops in a Fireteam benefit from Cover because the Fireteam quenches the impetuous, or do they still not get cover?

    The +0,5 SWC on Rui Shi and Total Reaction Remote is a bit of a bummer, but oh well....
     
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  13. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Impetuous troops in a link do indeed benefit from cover.
     
  14. zephen1802

    zephen1802 Active Member

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    I wonder about the availability. While the troop profile only says 5, on the PDF the availability of the keisotsu shows total in JSA, but 5 in ikari in the area where they list all the troops for a sectorial
     
  15. spears

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    Keisotsu are ava T in Ikari whilst the spoiled druze karakuri link is nowhere to been seen. I suspect we might see some minor changes yet.
     
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  16. TanakoSkyler22

    TanakoSkyler22 Varunan Diplomat

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    Yeah, it does show JSA as AVA Total and Ikari at AVA 5 for Keisotsus. I have to assume it is some error or bug.
     
  17. Death

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    Tano are amazing but their "nerfs" hardly mean anything. You got better units for CC, units that can get into melee easier and are more deadly. No, what you want is firepower and Tanko are still giving those sweet missile launcher AROs.

    I do think Yojimbo with his smoke LGL is a must have for every JSA list. Practically an auto-include. Also. I think people will be replacing the Rui Shi with a haris linked Kempei MSV 2.
     
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  18. fatRat

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    Uhhh saito specalist...
     
  19. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    Death, where are you seeing a Kempeitai Haris?
     
  20. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    There isn't one, Kempeitai can only be in a Special Fireteam: Core.
     
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