Dodge (-3)

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  1. KujakuDM

    KujakuDM Vigilo Confido

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    I understand that negative modifiers apply to the enemy. As such with the above example any time an enemy model declares dodge they get a -3 to their PHY. Or is it if you declare a dodge the enemy applies a -3.
     
  2. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    The modifiers are activated by the troop that has the "modified skill" in Face To Face rolls. So for a troop A with Dodge (-3) to apply a -3 to the enemy troop B, A must declare Dodge either as Short Order or ARO, while B may declare whatever that forces a FtF roll (for example, BS Attack).

    If A were to declare Dodge against a Chain Rifle attack from B, since there is no roll at all, there is no penalty in play. On the other hand, a Dodge (+3) works on the troop having the modifier and needs not a FtF, so if troop C declares Dodge (+3) against Troop D, it would apply even if D uses a chain rifle or a comms attack.
     
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  3. KujakuDM

    KujakuDM Vigilo Confido

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    Ok So Model A declares Dodge while they have the ability Dodge (-3). The opponent declare BS as their ARO. Model B does so at a -3.
     
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  4. iKon

    iKon Not Very Well-Known Member

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    Almost
    When trooper declares dodge then each opponent must apply a -3 to all face to face rolls. (the important part is that the modifier only applies if its a face to face)
     
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  5. Qwerinaga

    Qwerinaga Well-Known Member

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    So... I see two diametrically opposed opinions here. Which one is correct?
    Does "dodge (-3)" work when trooper with such skill in profile don't declare dodge himself?
     
  6. tox

    tox SorriBarai
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    Maybe i read a bit fast, but it seems they agree...
    Anyway, when the model with Dodge (-3) use the skill Dodge, the enemy(s) get the MOD to their FtF rolls.
     
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  7. Qwerinaga

    Qwerinaga Well-Known Member

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    I guess I didn't read carefully after all. I apologize.
    It's sad to realize... but looks like we played this moment wrong way.
     
  8. Iskandar

    Iskandar Well-Known Member

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    All non automatic skills and equipment work this way and did for the entirety of N4 as well
     
  9. Qwerinaga

    Qwerinaga Well-Known Member

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    It's never too late to dispel your own misconceptions. Now it remains is to convey this thought to our community that taught me this way.
     
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