Achilles is my bane. I just can't deal with him in HB. Every time I go against him in a tournaments he rambos my entire list. Admittedly the last few times I lost initiative, but I'm still looking over the HB options and don't see a counter. Usual counter for ODD are: Direct fire templates which would remove the ODD, but HB doesn't have access to. HB has a HRL but that means shooting into the ODD to remove it. MSV2... The closest HB has is MSV1 on the govads. But even with that the odds are not great, and a decent player will not let you get optimal range bands on him. Jammers \ Hackers: Are an option as long as you opponent doesn't use stealth while in range (Granted from MA). CC: His CC and MA are better than HBs best assassin. At best we can surprise attack him. But his W3 means it won't kill him in 1 attack, and the subsequent ones are against the odds with a very fragile attacker. Lots of AROS: I find he just walks threw them, with 6-4 Mov he isn't even slowed down that much. Is our best option to hope for initiative, spend 3/4 of our orders moving a fireteam into range. Then just dice him hoping we do enough before we run out of orders. If we fail, we leaving the bulk of our force in easy range of him. It seams a little futile. I don't see a way of competing against a list with him in any sort of killy scenario. Is there an option I'm missing?