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Countermeasures

Discussion in 'Dahshat Company' started by Space Ranger, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Ok so this is my next mission. I thought I'd show what i'm taking and we can discuss how Dahshat works with this mission.

    We have
    2 Veterans: Hulang, Al Faseed
    5 Characters (vets) Valerya, Sforza, McMurough, Togan, Ashcroft
    3 Doctor: Ghulam, Brawler, 112
    3 Engineer: Dozer, Brawler, Najarun
    4 Hackers: Valerya, Brawler, Zhencha, Ghulam
    5 FOs: Zuyong, Zhencha, Hunzakuts, Rafiq, Ghulam
    4 HI: Al Faseed, Hulang, Zhencha, Zuyong
    0 MI, Elite, CoC

    Good troops with multiple abilites
    Valerya: Hacker, Veteran
    Al Faseed: HI, Veteran
    Zuyong: FO, HI
    Zhencha: FO, Hacker, HI
    Hulang: HI, Veteran

    I think i'm going with a Bounty Hunter theme for this. Taking Miranda, Sforza, ABH. etc. I like that I can make so many different fireteams.

    Dahshat Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    Core
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    Duo
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    SFORZA FTO (Holoprojector L1) Viral Rifle + Adhesive Launcher, Nanopulser / Heavy Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)
    Haris Duo
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)

    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, D.E.P., Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 34)
    Duo
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)


    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  2. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    I see Dashat but I see less than 18 orders... something's wrong
     
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  3. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I'd take traktor muls (if I had them) or Flash pulse bots, but I feel that with this mission I need to cover a lot of bases. Dahshat has very few troops that can do more than about two cards. I wish there was more secret objectives that anyone could do but there isn't. The Zhencha is the only one that could possible accomplish a few. I've also have been having a hard time with too many Irregular orders. I'm going to stop going first because it really hurts to have two orders taken out of any pool.

    BTW I was thinking of having Sforza, disguised as a regular SMG bounty hunter.

    Also, please add your counter measures list and how you deal with it.
     
  4. Zewrath

    Zewrath Nordic Master

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    @Space Ranger I have to come clean here, my comment was mostly tongue in cheek
     
  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I figured but i would like to know. I saw your list for YJ and great job btw. I'd really like to know how to tackle this mission.
     
  6. Paegis

    Paegis Vincible

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    The Hunzakut might be particularly useful because in addition to FOing stuff, they could drop repeaters for Valerya.
     
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  7. RobertShepherd

    RobertShepherd Brisk antipodean

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    I'd generally avoid this because it will be obvious that he's Sforza after deployment when he doesn't roll booty like all the other ABHs.
     
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  8. KestrelM1

    KestrelM1 Well-Known Member

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    One of the best parts about Countermeasures is that you don't necessarily have to cover everything; you get to discard a card at the start of your turn, so if there's something you simply can't accomplish you can always bury it and get something better. That gives you a lot more freedom in listbuilding and it's more forgiving of gaps in your list or ones that develop over the course of play.

    In my mind, Dahshat's all stars in Countermeasures are:
    - Valerya Gromoz: Does all the Hacking and Veteran objectives and is an obvious pick for Datatracker. Loves the extra order as well.
    - Zhencha Boarding Shotgun: Hugely reliable way to accomplish Sabotage and Follow-up, as well as the ability to do any of the FO objectives.
    - Ghulam fireteams: Fit Doctors, Hackers, and FOs on the cheap, and can even host a character or two. Probably not your primary avenue but at WIP14 they make beautiful back-ups for a number of classifieds.

    There's lots of reasons to include a number of other pieces, but I think those will make the majority of your lists in Countermeasures. With that in mind here's what I'd probably field for the mission:


    Countermeasures
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]2
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    TRAKTOR MUL (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (0 | 5)
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism) Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
    LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism) Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)

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    The breakdown:
    - Zuyong and Rui Shi as attack pieces.
    - Ghulam Core as ML/Flash Pulse ARO bunker plus backup specialists.
    - Zhencha and Hunzakut as "midfield" skirmishers. With the Zhencha I'll probably try an Infiltration roll to deploy in the enemy table half more often than not.
    - McMurrough for McMurrough things. Obviously good for Predator but also nice for Capture, Kidnapping, and Net-Undermine. Reliable smoke makes a lot of things easier, as well.
    - Red Fury Rafiq as swing attack/classified piece.
    - Valerya as the intended Datatracker. Even with nothing to do she can use the free order to Supportware the remotes.
    - Dozer and Traktor Mul for classifieds and orders.
    - Libertos as ablative ARO crumple zones or potentially attack pieces.
     
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  9. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Well, I took out Sforza. Every time i put him in to a list i end up taking him out.

    So, again I like i can make tons of different teams on the fly. But right now I think Brawler team with MSV2 Sniper. I just got a fig for it so... Then Haris of Zuyong+Rui Shi+Miranda. Duo of Rafiq+ABH.

    I'm really not sure how to split up the groups though.

    BTW I just painted my Zhencha. See here.

    Dahshat Company
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
    RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
    MIRANDA ASHCROFT Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 24)
    DOZER Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    ZHĒNCHÁ (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18)
    LIBERTO Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)

    4.5 SWC | 300 Points

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