Counterintelligence on the Taagma

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  1. Vanderbane

    Vanderbane Well-Known Member

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    So when I have my Taagma in Holoprojector state as a kosuil, and my opponent goes to use his command token to strip 2 orders from me. I say, "not so fast, I have counterintelligence!" Question is: I have to reveal the Taagma that is using Counterintelligence, right? Is that "declaring a skill" for the purpose of holoprojector state cancellation, right?
     
  2. solkan

    solkan Well-Known Member

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    No. "declare a skill" for the purposes of Holoecho, and all of the various marker states that use that sort of language is referring to the declaration of a skill as an ARO or as part of an order.

    Because camo markers can still use (and benefit from) automatic skill (like Stealth) while remaining in camouflaged.
     
  3. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    No, Declaring a Skill is part of the Order Expenditure Sequence, so cannot be done in the deployment phase.

    You do have to inform your opponent that you have the Counterintelligence skill, reducing the effect of his command token and revealing that you have a Taagma somewhere.
     
  4. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Heres a question though, WHEN do you say that you have counter intelligence? Is it:
    • After they spend command token but before saying which effect.
    • After picking which effect but before picking which combat group to reduce orders (if they pick order pool)
    • After picking which combat group(s) the orders will come from. And who determines which combat group orders are actually removed?
    • And for command token restriction, do you inform them as soon as they do strategic use that you have counter intelligence, or when you spend your second command token in your turn?
    And why?
     
  5. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Ugh, this reminds me why I really don't like counterintelligence being hidden information, doubly so on the Schemer.
     
  6. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    From the example, it would be this. And effectively the same for the restriction on using Command Tokens.
     
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  7. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough reason, thanks!
     
  8. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    On a related note, why did Bostria say that using Counterintelligence meant that it was revealed that his Lt was the schemer when he did that?
     
  9. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    only after theyve spent the command token however, because it is hidden information until then
     
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  10. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that was a simple rule goof and he was thinking about Strategos needing to be LT to work
     
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