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Closed Battle Lists - Wishlisting

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by ZlaKhon, Apr 7, 2018.

  1. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Hey guys,

    I was doing a bit of brainstorming about possible closed battle lists for the upcoming campaign. As far as I can see, the PanO closed battle lists haven't really taken off, so it would be cool to develop some ideas on how the YJ lists could be awesome.

    Ideally, the lists would revolve around many of the new models and don't require having / buying really old stuff like the Shang Ji, which will likely receive new sculpts with the IA release. Best case, the lists involve many units from the Red Veil and Beyond Box.
    Since the closed battle lists are public, it doesn't make sense to include a lot of trickery:
    - AD troops are no surprise (one Tiger can still be cool though)
    - LT should either be obvious (e.g. Sun Tze, Hsien) or hidden by several of exactly the same models (e.g. 3 Zhanshi)

    It might make sense to give each battle list a bit of a specialization, so that they also make sense for use in Tournaments.

    Here is a list idea, which I find relatively well suitable for open tables and few specialist troops required by the mission:

    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] HSIEN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 57)
    [​IMG] YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] YĀN HUǑ 2 Missile Launchers + TinBot C (Neurocinetics) / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 56)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)

    7 SWC | 300 Points

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    All you need is Red Veil + expansion, the Zhanshi SWC box and the two Yan Huo blisters (assuming you proxie the Hsien LT with the HMG).

    The Zhanshi would get Fireteam: Core and possible special Fireteam core: up to 4 Zhanshis and a Hsien.

    To me this looks like a nice list with some clear strengths and weaknesses.

    As a counterpoint, here would be a list with more orders and some other hard hitters:

    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] HAC TAO HMG, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 68)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

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    In this case there would be only a Fireteam: core of Zhanshis. This list would work on a bit more normal to full tables, can make use of the smoke trick, has more specialists and most important brings a lot more bodies.

    Here one would need the Red Veil and expansion, Zhanshi SWC box, two boxes with REMs, the Shaolin Box, the soon to be redesigned support box and the Hac Tao blister. Thats a bit more of an investment, but the even for newer players those are probably useful purchases.

    What do you guys think? I kinda stayed away from creating too crazy fireteams, do you have other ideas? In principle, a core of Zuyongs would be neat, but who has more than two of these guys?
     
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  2. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    I thought about mixed fireteams:

    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    [​IMG] YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (2 | 36)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] ZHANSHI Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
    [​IMG] GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] TIGER SOLDIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Here I'd allow the core of Zhanshis and a special core of up to 2 Zuyongs and up to 3 Zhanshis. Maybe this will give the list a more IA feel. The only crutch I can't really get rid of is the one Guilang..
     
  3. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    The CBLs are for ISS not IA, sorry to disappoint.
     
  4. Shiwen

    Shiwen Commissar, Yu Jing Political Work Department

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    I'm still holding out hope he misspoke or there will be a couple different takes on the CBLs where one might be Invincible Army, but yeah, if we take Bostria at his word in the interview with the White Noise podcast, it seems like they're meant to be the Imperial Service forces most enthusiastic/effective at killing the Japanese?

    Which would raise another path for conjecture... ISS is already a sectorial, and CBLs aren't just premade normal army lists, so what WOULD an Imperial Service Closed Battle List contain?
     
  5. berynius

    berynius Well-Known Member

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    Hoping for something like 3 Wu-Ming and A Pheasant + Missile Launcher Drone or 3 Zhanying + Ashcroft + Bounty hunter or dare I say 3 Celestial Guard + Hsien (rifle) + Daikini (Paramedic)
     
  6. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    These CBLs are going to be garbage tier in usefulness. I wouldn't recommend getting your hopes up on anything good at all.
     
  7. berynius

    berynius Well-Known Member

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    And you know this how??? But anyway this is the thread for whislisting go make a Downer Debbie thread if you just want to piss and moan :-)
     
  8. Stormygeddon

    Stormygeddon Well-Known Member

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    Aren't all the Closed Battle lists a single Combat Group?

    Should be setting things up for a 10 order list.

    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    [​IMG]6
    [​IMG] YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Boarding Shotgun / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 26)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Lieutenant (AutomediKit) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1 | 39)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (2 | 36)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG MULTI Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0 | 31)

    5.5 SWC | 216 Points

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    Like a Core Zuyong team with some Haris (perhaps Shang Ji linked with Son-Bae or a Weibing Remote, or a few trickled in Mercenaries like Avicenna or something.

    It could also match a White Banner list with Svalarheima and get something centered around the Guijia and Zhanshi (our closest equivalents to the Jotum and Fusiliers.
     
  9. berynius

    berynius Well-Known Member

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    According to a recent statment on a Australian Pod Cast (White Noise) the CBL are for the ISS Counter Insurgency Division. So no IA (yet anyway)
     
  10. Shiwen

    Shiwen Commissar, Yu Jing Political Work Department

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    Counter-Insurgency CBL - 5-man link of Kanren with Holoprojectors upgraded to L3 ^_^.
     
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  11. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Take a look at the Pan-O ones. They're not good, they're made by people who aren't very competitive and just build for fluff reasons.
     
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  12. St.Craft

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    Where i can look at PanO closed lists?
     
  13. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    ITS season 9 document. Has CBLs for Pan-O
     
  14. St.Craft

    St.Craft Active Member

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    Thank you! This lists is really strange... I dont think i can win any mission with this lists, expect supremacy i think?
     
  15. SKOZZOKONZ

    SKOZZOKONZ Well-Known Member

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    Its gonna have to be some pretty hectic shit for me to even care, especially after the end to end disappointment that the uprising has been for yu jing.

    I hope its not gonna be some matched lists to play against the unmodified contents of the JSA box, or maybe paired lists JSA with iss.
     
  16. Borlois

    Borlois Yu Jing Imperial Service Agent

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    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    GRUPO 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Teniente Fusil Combi / 2 Pistolas Breaker, Cuchillo. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Ametralladora / 2 Pistolas Breaker, Cuchillo. (1.5 | 35)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG (Observ. de Artillería) Fusil Combi / 2 Pistolas Breaker, Cuchillo. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Fusil Combi + 1 TinBot B (Deflector N2) / 2 Pistolas Breaker, Cuchillo. (0.5 | 30)
    [​IMG] ZÚYǑNG Lanzamisiles, Escopeta Lig. / 2 Pistolas Breaker, Cuchillo. (2 | 36)
    GRUPO 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] YĀN HUǑ Cañón Magnético Hiperrápido / Pistola, Cuchillo. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] SHÀNG JÍ Fusil Combi + Lanzallamas Lig. / Pistola, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] SHÀNG JÍ Sanitario (Medikit) Fusil Combi + Lanzallamas Lig. / Pistola, Arma CC Shock. (0 | 39)
    6 CAP | 286 Puntos
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    Possible Zuyong Core, and Haris with Yan Huo? 6 shots!!
     
  17. Warhydra

    Warhydra Well-Known Member

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    lolwut?! Why do we even need those?
     
  18. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    IS themed CBLs hey.

    All I can think of is that all Guijia squadrons are based on the capital.

    I'd run this with with IS fireteams legality.

    [​IMG] Yu Jing
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] GŪIJIĂ Lieutenant MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / AP CCW. (3 | 88)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] GŪIJIĂ PILOT Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. ()
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    [​IMG] HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    [​IMG] MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] KǍNRÈN Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] KǍNRÈN Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, MadTraps / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] PHEASANT IMPERIAL AGENT (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 29)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    The warcor is there to broadcast the atrocities. Pheasant BSG is there because he's a model every IS player owns and none of them uses. 2 Kanrens because they are counter insurgency and this is an insurgency that needs to be countered. The novelty of this list is having both a Guijia and a stable order pool.

    I am aware you can make better lists by downgrading the Guijia to a su jian and just playing IS normally, but then it can't be LT.
     
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  19. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Who knows.
     
  20. the huanglong

    the huanglong Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it will be a theme list where XO Hac Tao relieves rabid Crane Agent of his LT status...
     
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