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CB Please Bring Back the Santiago Boarding Shotgun

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by RogueJello, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to formally request that Corvus Belli bring back the Santiago Boarding Shotgun model. The removal of a profile that has a model that's being sold as part of an existing boxed set is puzzling in a manner that suggests it's removal is an oversight.

    Just going from the previous profiles, I suspect that it would be 0/36, which would make it slightly less expensive than the KHD Santiago, but that could be "fixed" by adding Specialist operative, or Paramedic.

    So I'm not seeing any balance issues that needed to be addressed by the removal of a profile that already has a model. Also I've got mine painted. :)
     
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    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    The only balance issue I can think of is that CB didn't want that particular loadout available to every fireteam, but given that all of them can have either LSG or BG anyway...

    Adding it back would also make the Santiago box fully valid again, though I have no idea if they won't get a resculpt sometime soon.
     
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  3. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Which fireteam cannot right now benefit from BSG/LSG ?o0
     
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    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    I've literally just said, that they all can :D
     
  5. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Maybe in MO / PanO.
    I could point out a few in other armies that don't.
     
  6. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Point is that mayby only reason why BSG Santiago was deleted was that CB didn't want to allow LSG/BSG in every MO link team. Problem is even now (without BSG Santiago) existence it can be done. It's really hard to justify any good background for Santiago BSG to be deleted.
     
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  7. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    I think the Teuton/Magister's Knight, but they can take the Heavy Rocket Launcher Order Sgt who also has an Assault pistol, which usually works out about the same odds, give or take a 3-5%.
     
  8. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Magisters (sans ML) have LSGs as standard.
     
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  9. RogueJello

    RogueJello Well-Known Member

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    Duh! Thanks!
     
  10. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Agree with the OP on this. It's very unusual for CB to remove a profile that has a model sculpted for it, especially when they're leaving that model in production!
     
  11. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Also keeping the fact it has well still a lot of sense in game.
     
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  12. Titus

    Titus Varuna Beach Commando

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    Also have mine painted along the rest of the Santiago Knights in that 4 models box. Please give him a profile.

    ...if not, I'm planning to use it as KHD all the time since he's the best sculpt together with the Spitfire.
     
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  13. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    I'd expect the Santiago changes to be a pretty clear sign the box is going to be replaced. Consider, it is also a box of 4 models for a unit with a max AVA of 3 in the Sectorial. Do we have many/any other instances of boxes offering models in excess of the max AVA available?
     
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  14. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    well, we also have 5 wulver models for AVA 4 troop
     
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  15. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    It's so definitely going to be redone as 3 Santiagos and a Tinbot
     
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  16. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    There are 9 different Bolt models...
     
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    Bolts are Total AVA in NCA, although anyone actually fielding 9 Bolts would certainly be a rarity. Now, for a unit with sculpt count exceeding AVA, look no further then Joan of Arc.
     
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  18. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Are they sold in 1 box? No.
    Are they sold in 1 box? No.
     
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    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Joan1 has one really old sculpt (dating to ~2006 or 7), one LE, and one New (with Tactical Molester Umbra). Joan2 has one really old sculpt (dating to ~2009) and one new.

    Wouldn't exactly call those overdone, though LE Joan makes a pretty decent all-purpose proxy. Not like Sun1 v Sun2, where the armor is completely different.
     
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  20. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    And we still don't have a non-hacker Bolt BSG! :P

    I would like to see the Santiago BSG again though.
     
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