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Can CSUs run Duo in NCA army?

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Chade, Sep 25, 2018.

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  1. Chade

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    Hello,

    A question arose from conversation in PanOceania subforum. In Infinity Army all CSU profiles have "Fireteam: Duo" special rule. However it seems that PDF for NCA sectorial listing doesn't give CSUs any fireteam options. Not even that Duo. So which takes precedence?

    This links to the question about new Deva profiles. According to PDFs only Deva Haris is linked as OSSS-only profile, so according to that FO and AHD profiles should be allowed in NCA. However according to Army those are not.

    Would it be possible to have clear ruling on this one way or another? @ijw, @Koni, @HellLois
     
  2. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Deva profiles is going to have to come from Koni or HellLois.

    For Fireteams, the option must be listed in the Sectorial's chart of Fireteams, whether the trooper has the Skill isn't relevant.
     
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  3. Chade

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    Thank you for extremely fast response! Sad, but at least it's clear enough now.
     
  4. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    lovely and clear that
     
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    deltakilo Bear of Butcher bay
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    So you are saying I have been playing it incorrectly using CSU with duo in NCA. SIGH that's so so so poorly written. It has Duo but can't duo...jeez that's unecessarily restrictive. Don't give it duo in its profile if it cannot do so give it duo only in the factions that Can...just like certain spektyr profiles are only available in TJC....
     
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    daboarder Force One Commander
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    just give them the duo, does it really need the "Oh sorry we didnt update you" knife twisted harder?

    @ijw really bodes well for ASA doesnt it when CB cant even keep NCA up to date as a living sectorial
     
  7. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    yeah, doesn't really make a ton of sense to me. They really should be able to, I don't think it's too much of a balance issue tbh
     
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    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Shooting the messenger is... not helpful... :face_with_rolling_eyes:
     
  9. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Are you able to give them a slight nudge for an update of the Profiles PDF (so that you can update the Wiki)? There are plenty of instances of options being available in Army that are not in the PDFs, which suggests that they are already out of date and there could be the intention for link options that aren't shown.

    For example, PDF still does not give NCA access to Aida Swanson, PDF doesn't list ISS having access to CSU... But these troops are available via Army.
     
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    Doesn't having duo on thier profile let you use EVO hacking to make them into a duo regardless of sectorial options?
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    As written Teampro lets you form Duos in Generic/Vanilla lists, so technically no.
     
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    Yeah, I just doubled check that. Guess it's there just for generic lists with EVO hackers.
     
  13. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower

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    Well, thanks for being clear and direct @ijw

    I may not like the answer,

    I may fully agree with @daboarder that it's a bullshit answer,

    I may think that it's telling regarding the likelihood of quality support in the future,

    But it's better to know clearly what the answer is intended to be.
     
  14. barakiel

    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    I think we can agree that this is a natural inclusion for NCA. I'd like us to find ways to put this in front of CB.
     
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    good luck with that, CB is likely to just not respond and the wider community is likely to just label it more "PanO whining"
     
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    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Well, the negative attitude doesn't help to boost your image.
     
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    daboarder Force One Commander
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    You really need to stop constantly having a go mate
     
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    @barakiel see
     
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    barakiel Echo Bravo Master Sergeant

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    Apparently ISS doesn't get CSU Duo either.
     
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    daboarder Force One Commander
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    didnt the duo get added specifically for ISS, thats just legitimately funny.

    Does seem like the List of fireteams wasnt updated when DUO was added to the CSU profile.
    @ijw thoughts?
     
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