I've been playing TAK for the last 6+ months and I'm finding it really hard to adjust to not having the pieces I'm used to. I crutch so hard on the Veteran Kazak AP HMG for raw firepower and the Spetsnaz HMG for edging out fireteams/whatever needs to die. In TAK, I can spam infiltrators, have multiple HMGs, close range weapons, warbands, answers to everything and still be sitting at 15-17 orders and not break a sweat. And then I'm building SEF and I have literally no idea what I'm doing. So let's think about what I'm trying to do. I have a small 8 player thing coming up, 300pts, Frostbyte, Tic Tac Toe and Engineering Deck. I think I can make one list for Frostbyte and the other list for the other two. Basically Frostbyte needs some specific tools (antimaterial ccw) and the other two kind of just need button pressing and area denial. I'm worried about dealing with stuff like the Kamau or other links. I think my answer to them is the Gwailo HRL (Albedo), my own link through a Dazer, or dropping smoke/white noise and ignoring the problem. I really also quite like the idea of using the Marksman Haiduk, as he's got a visor and Marksmanship like the Spetsnaz. So starting Tic Tac Toe and Engineering Deck, I'll add a Speculo Minelayer for zone control/sneaky crap. Shrouded for buttons, Malignos for buttons and he's got a Dazer. I'll probably go with a Nox core with T-Drone FTO and a EI Hacker and Q-Drone. Solo Sheskin to rampage like Achillies and some cheap orders. I'm kind of hoping Assisted Fire and a Dazer will get the job done. I can also drop a mine in front of anything that wants to ARO first turn (if I have initiative). Speculo Minelayer Shrouded FO Malignos KHD Nox CR Nox EI Hacker T-Drone FTO Mentor Lt BS Sheskin RF / Q Drone HMG 2 Ikadrons Taigha AP 300-5.5-10/3-1. GwBgzAPmIhCiARABAQwHYBMkBVcQIwgCkArAOzEAsZAHMEQIQ2nDMBM4ljAnC79TTaM2XfG274ilGiEkMRRMRKky5CpZOmzG+EqTJ6BZYaPGaZx+XqVgV+Xg3v7eYDrwAC+LuS4dpO5nJ2EBJbR0DaIg5Q4WMlY2kwend3IA As for Frostbyte, my options to smash consoles are the Jayth, Sheskiin and the Sphinx. So I think it'll be a Sphinx list. Which will be super garbage as I've played a Sphinx twice in Onyx ever. I'll probably just have one of the Nox be my datatracker, or the Haiduk and just play it safe. Sphinx Speculo BS Shrouded FO Malignos KHD Nox Lt Nox EI Hacker 2 Nox CR T-Drone FTO Haiduk AP Marksman 298-5-10 GwBgzAPmIhEIzwKQFYDsyBMIAsKkCE8IqaJ2OOhAHKsLdmFQQJx1s5rWaGZXyYWyHNWK9+g4dRBpxSAUKQiQyAn3mSl01fHzp8narIJg6p+CxbAkAATtA=== Anyone got any ideas?