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Bots in OSS - The Humans are Dead

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by sirsagrell, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. sirsagrell

    sirsagrell Varuna Diving Instructor

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    Hola Online Community!

    I've been really pleased with the response from this community in regards to my questions and ideas - but I have another for you!

    Will be getting in some intro gaming with a few friends who are brand new to Infinity over the weekend (I'm also relatively green myself), and we will be playing through the O:CF starter missions. Building the Aleph side of the box, I have become quite taken with the new Dakini sculpts, which is making me also want to pick up the Garuda blisters and I'm anxiously awaiting the SWC Dakini box to come out. The new rebot box is amazing, and provide some range options. The Rudra is cool and can fill roles well it looks.

    That being said - do you think it possible to run an almost full bot lists? I know running a full bot list would... be... bad... but an almost bot list?

    The main problem that I am running into is a lack of specialists that appear in the lists that I write. In a core, I can only include paramedics. I could use my left over Dakini as a Spec-Ops to at least fit the theme I am trying for (my Meta is super inclusive of all playstyles in any game we play).

    Have any of you tried to write lists that are bot heavy? Or suggestions on conversions to fill out the theme?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    Biggest problem with all REM lists is the Lt.

    REMs can't be the Lieutenant so it can be easy for your opponent to put you in permanent loss of Lt.
     
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  3. sirsagrell

    sirsagrell Varuna Diving Instructor

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    I agree! Not worried about being just remotes - as the Marut could fill the LT. Only thing better than a bot, is a bigger bot
     
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  4. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Well considering everything in the faction except Posthumans (Dart included) and the various mercs are AIs it really depends how you classify things.
     
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  5. Mruczyslaw

    Mruczyslaw AROnaut

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    Yes.
    We should just start calling any lhosts and humans in OSS meatbags. That would clear things up.

    Anyway, I was thinking about same thing :D It is possible, it has potential BUT pernament LoL situation is real thing in this case.
    It actualy happened to me and my OSS on one games during tournament (r2 and r3 in LoL due to no legal Lt on board);D I still won 8/3 but it was awkward.

    It is what Onyx could be - full REM/TAG lists.
     
  6. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache
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    The LoL problem is real, but something you have to accept in these kinds of things. Only one that can get around it is Avatar-led Combined Army by virtue of using G:Auto-tool REMs to keep Lt jumping around.

    Aside from that, Aleph and OS are actually positioned half-decently for all-REM lists - just accept those lists are for friendly games.
     
  7. Kir

    Kir Well-Known Member

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    A full rem/tag list would be doable, you'd run into the following perks and issues though:

    Hacking. The only REM hacker you have access to is the EVO, which isnt good at combat hacking. Except to be hacked- just try to kill in response or ahead of time.An evo hacker with this many repeaters and AD garudas is a good idea anyways.

    No FO option ( unless you count the metal looking mk5) means samekhs should only be taken for dakini link AROs. Zayins provide good area denial and a decent attack piece. You should max out on lamedhs and netrods for hopefully obvious reasons(ie : fueling your pricy doombunny). Remember that the Marut can deploy a specialist remote!

    Getting to at least 10 orders, likely with a dakini link, is probably your best bet. Then spend on either garudas, rudras, zayin, depending on how much camo you expect you can get a satlock bot as well for sensor combined with your lamedhs.
     
  8. The Revanchist

    The Revanchist Active Member

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    I agree that the Samekh is best used in a Dakini Core, but you have the Daleth with Forward Observer (and Sensor, Sat-Lock for Targeting outside LoF).
     
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  9. Kir

    Kir Well-Known Member

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    Right, but its rather pricy to go for guided missles in a Marut list. A barebones dakini core, ordermonkeys and marut generally leave you only a few slots to vary in.
     
  10. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    No guided with the fireteam. It is just a base ML in the FTO profile, so not a concern.

    Edit: sorry misread the conversation leading up. ignore me
     
  11. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    I used to have fun making cube-less lists for Vanilla.

    You can do the same easily for OSS, and even better it still lets you use the Posthumans.
     
  12. Kir

    Kir Well-Known Member

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    Technically, they have cube 3.0 in the fluff, the kind that lets you livestream yourself from the cloud into a body. But I guess cb represents that with remote presence instead.
     
  13. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    De nada.
    [​IMG] Marut 2.0
    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────

    [​IMG]9
    [​IMG] MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] MARUT MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 116)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)

    6 SWC | 298 Points

    Open in Infinity Army
     
  14. Mruczyslaw

    Mruczyslaw AROnaut

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    Lamedh is AVA2, so its possible to squeeze 10 orders.
     
  15. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    Only if you are willing to take CSU (not REM).