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So as discussed, a joke against all but Tarik, since they either always go linked (so no order), are cheerleaders (Voronin), nobody use them (Andromeda)...
Funny how Kusanagi and Shi Zuan are the ones who will get something out of this, Tarik PWNS all, and the rest... pfff :/

 

Same thoughts about Tarik who benefits the most of silly backdoor ;(

 

Well is was target priority #1 before and still is for me. It's a nice extra but I'll never use Data Tracker for Zuan.

 

All go linked? You never heard of Vanilla?

 

I'm kinda sad cuz I thought they were doing some kind of Guard skill rework, banning the only two characters that have it from memory xD

 

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

 

If linked, they gain nothing, and they are usually linked when in the sectorial; but for that reason I mentioned Kusanagi wins something. Kusanagi as Lt? Only with Emily as CoC, any other situation she is the Datatracker, but she's better off as not the Lt.

Tarik is now Auto-Datatracker Lt with Farzan CoC. Kusanagi is Datatracker non-Lt at nearly the same level as Kusanagi Lt (if MULTI-rifle, if not, she is better as Datatracker with another toon as Lt). Xi Zhuan... sees some use as part of a fireteam, but he's not really Datatracker material. Voronin is the Cheerleader for LI Ariadna, and won't be the Datatracker unless you want to hide him somewhere not reachable... where he won't get use of that Datatracker order. Andrómeda will still suffer the same problems as always: first line, too fragile, too spread...

 

They don't get nothing.

They just leave the link. That extra order is still useful, and you can relink!

 

And all those unimpressive characters like Andromeda are a lot more impressive, imo, if you get a free extra order along with them.

 

Hold your knee jerking there. Tarik is a garbage datatracker. Either you’re forced to throw away your massive OP in a game with not using a fiday to assassinate the designated target or you’re losing points because you chose him in those missions where he’s supposed to hold a point at the end of the game but if you’re finishing round 3 with Tarik still alive, you’re badly winning anyway and you could just assign anyone as DT at that point.

 

Be cool if there was a rule that actually facilitated this, like "Datahound" or something. I think it'd be a nifty little addition.

 

@HellLois this datatracker bonus is garbage for every single faction except Haqqislam, for which it's brutally effective. Please feedback that these bonuses should be thought through a bit more thoroughly so more factions can actually benefit here.

 

Have you realised that models like Xi are only amazing when linked and don't see play in Vanilla?

 

Yeah I'm sort of bummed that they didn't take the oppertunity to overhaul Veronin when his reception was "meh" at best and sort of detrimental at worst. Pretty tough to sell a large based obvious LT to an army that can really play the lieutenant camo shellgame on top of the option of an extremely cheap bargain bin lieutenant.

 

Huh? He’s auto include in Vanilla dude. He’s a DZ Moran and the factions cheapest source of mad traps as well as being a specialist. Get out of your bubble mate.

 

He's a waste of points in Vanilla. He's a specialist that doesn't contribute because he's order inefficient at getting to targets when you've already got Guilang and Ninjas deploying on top of them and packing marker states to bypass ARO traps for very little more in points.

And if all you want is some Madtraps the Kanren has greater flexibiltiy in deploying the mad traps and can start the game using them to protect objectives aggressively, and also packs a marker state for surprise shot. Hell I pick Pheasants over Xi when I want just want Mad Traps, at least then you can ram points into a rambo LT like a Hac Tao and go hard with them with no consequences.

Xi's selling points are great when he gets to move up the table when someone else moves, and can press a button so someone else doesn't have to in a link. He's super cost effective then as a support and protection for a Crane. In Vanilla he's a waste of space because he does not support effectively and you're paying points for a dead skill like Number 2.

 

Yeah... no.. first of all, you do not Rambo with a Hac Tao, That’s a massive waste of points that’s never worth it. Also if you think specialists are only viable because they start on top of objectives then you’re discarding 80% of the specialists in this game. By your logic a CSU specialist is a bad specialist that doesn’t contribute.
Second of all, learn to coordinate orders I guess?
Third of all, you do realise that when you break down his skills he’s actually undercosted by somewhere between 0,5-1 point so he’s not even paying for his Number 2.
Also, for some reason you don’t seem to understand that he’s so cheap that you can afford him as an additional source of Mad Traps or just the only source of mad Traps, you seem to operate under this strange mindset that just because you pick Xi, you somehow exclude a Kanren or a Pheasant... that’s a ridiculous statement.

 

"I don't personally use him" =/= "he is a waste of points."

Just because you don't personally rate Xi does not mean he is objectively shit. I think he's pretty good unlinked myself, and a strong datatracker too! So is Kusinagi, who by herself is a deadly and resilient gunfighter, one of the best in Nomads, and a specialist.

Also "doesn't see play in Vanilla" is not true. I've seen him used in Vanilla. Loads of people have seen him used in Vanilla. He does get use in Vanilla. This is a fact which is not up for debate. Is he any good in that role? You can indeed debate that, but he's undeniably better as an unlinked Datatracker than he was, due to this free cool order.