Armory Day thoughts

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  1. BrianJ

    BrianJ Well-Known Member

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    I’m working on a list to serve for the two objective room missions (Armory and Panic Room) for vanilla Haqq. I’m having some difficulty settling on one and was hoping to tap into the collective experience here as I’ve not played either mission with Haqq in N4.

    This is where I’m looking right now:

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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    ASAWIRA (Doctor [+3]) AP Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 36)
    AL-DJABEL Rifle, Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    ZULEYKA Light Flamethrower(+1B), Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol(+2B), EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    SHAYTANIYAH REMOTE Missile Launcher / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 16)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO Red Fury, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 20)
    HAWWA' (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 26)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    BARID (Lieutenant, Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 17)
    FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    KAMEEL (Deactivator, Repeater) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 8)
    KUM Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    MUTTAWI'AH Boarding Shotgun, E/Marat, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9)
    MUTTAWI'AH Boarding Shotgun, E/Marat, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9)
    NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)

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    Really appreciate any feedback or advice!
     
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  2. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    The last couple of episodes of the podcast Mayacast has some discussion on this.
     
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  3. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    To help give you suggestions, what is your general plan with the list? Is it get Asawira inside the box and hold? I am assuming Al-djabel will hide in impersonation state in the Panic Room for quick early points.

    For heavy weapons, it looks like you are using Knauf as an attack piece and the missle remote/hacking combo. The mutts will be great for stopping HI in the room, but how are you planning on killing them? Zuyleka as cleaner piece?

    If that is the general idea, I think it can work. I am addicted to the Asawira AP spitfire though. @QueensGambit has a lot of good experience with the doctor and may be able to help.
     
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  4. BrianJ

    BrianJ Well-Known Member

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    Yep, that is largely the plan!

    Going first: marker states in the box, drop EM mines and/or pitchers. Knauf for possible medium ARO removal.

    Go second: sweep with gazi and/or bikes; possibly set-up for guided.

    I go back and forth on which Asiwira profile I run. Seemed like the combo of a doctor for cards/healing in the room + having a shotgun would be good for these missions.

    If the gazi's can immobilize HI in the room then apply missiles
     
  5. QueensGambit

    QueensGambit Chickenbot herder

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    My experience with the doctor is in HB, in a duo or haris with the Spitfire. I've never run the doctor solo, and although it has some proponents, I think they advocate it for button-pushing missions. I don't see a solo Asawira Doctor doing much the in The Armory, I'd definitely go with the Spitfire, a.k.a. Murder Machine.

    I'm also not a fan of trying to occupy the armory with marker states - it's a lot of orders to get them in there, and then they're not hard to either remove or outweigh. Infiltration is also wasted points with the exclusion zone.

    Bikes are good, templates are good, smoke is good. Throw some smoke on the armory door and a Mukhtar could really go to town on everyone inside. And of course, Guided.
     
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    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    For your inspiration, I made some minor changes that I hope keeps your planned approach:

    8” cage of emotion suggestion
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
    AL-DJABEL Rifle, Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    ZULEYKA Light Flamethrower(+1B), Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol(+2B), EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 11)
    KNAUF MULTI Sniper Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32)
    SHAYTANIYAH REMOTE Missile Launcher / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 16)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO Red Fury, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0.5 | 20)
    HAWWA'(Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 26)
    BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    FARZAN (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]2
    NAFFATÛN Rifle, Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 13)
    KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 5)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    MUTTAWI'AH Boarding Shotgun, E/Marat, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9)
    NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)
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    You lose some of the redundancy of the Mutts, but you get a some large disposable templates to clean out the room on turn two and three. Heavy Flamers are pretty deadly and should not be ignored. You also were probably going to be aggressive with the Asawira Spitfire and you have a Chain of Command, so why not give it the LT order? It is an aggressive list, but could be fun. Note, I love Haqqislam doctors but I could not find a way to fit one in organically.
     
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  7. BrianJ

    BrianJ Well-Known Member

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    Appreciate the feedback!

    Perhaps I was being overly concerned about the need for diverse specialists. I agree getting a dr in organically is tough.

    The main reason to keep the barid as Lt and asawira as normal is just to give another essential personnel for panic room but I perhaps have enough as is.
     
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    Revised list based on @QueensGambit and @Brokenwolf suggestions/experiences:

    Not sure if it is foolish to try without any long-range gunfighter when panic room gives you an 8" DZ, but hopefully with the amount of smoke, 6" cautious moves on a few pieces, and the large LOS blocking objective room my key pieces can get up without taking bad FtFs.

    8” cage of emotion 2.0
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    ASAWIRA (Lieutenant) AP Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 39)
    AL-DJABEL Rifle, Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon. (0 | 33)
    HORTLAK (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 32)
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, Nanopulser(+1B) ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 36)
    YARA HADDAD AP Marksman Rifle / Heavy Pistol(+1B), CC Weapon. (0 | 25)
    BARID (Hacker, Hacking Device) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 17)
    LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mines, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 20)
    RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 14)
    SHAYTANIYAH REMOTE Missile Launcher / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 16)
    ZULEYKA Light Flamethrower(+1B), Smoke Grenades / Breaker Pistol(+2B), EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 11)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]3
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7)
    KUM Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 6)
    MUTTAWI'AH Boarding Shotgun, E/Marat, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9)
    MUTTAWI'AH Boarding Shotgun, E/Marat, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 9)
    NADHIR (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun, Flammenspeer / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 24)

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