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Andromeda, Worth it now?

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Pen-dragon, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. Pen-dragon

    Pen-dragon Deva

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    So with the rework to Guard that came in Daedelus' Fall, I find myself taking another look at Andromeda. Huge base, but a nice package of skills. She might suffer from lack of specialization, but she looks to me like a nice toolbox unit.

    So I was wondering about other's impressions. Is Andromeda worth it? Does it make a difference if we are talking about Vanilla, Steel Phalanx, or Operations Subsection?
     
  2. Furiat

    Furiat Mandarin

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    I think that her position in Steel Phalanx and vanilla didn't change. There are better CC troops in both. ASS doesen't have sufficient support for her and vanilla has so many interesting troops in this price that andromeda is hard to justify. In OSS though. She definitly improved and still is single CC specialist in sectorial. Operation can provide solid midfield to support her and make use of that b2 attacks. Especially in missions abbout destroying antennas/boxes/consoles. You don't want to run through entire table with sophotect or proxy just to place d-charges.
     
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  3. Furiat

    Furiat Mandarin

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    Oh Arjuna also has d-charges. Well. I'm still learning to use her but she seems like a decent platform for turn 3 blowing shit up.

    Have you noticed that deva got a spec ops profile for OSS and vanilla. If your meta uses this rule, this can be another decent boxkiller.
     
  4. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    I'm a Vanilla player and I would say she is as bad as she was. Reworking guard is a nice idea but what she suffer the most of is not the guard skill, it's the S4 that come with it.

    Having a 55 mm is just a nightmare. Having it on a unit with short range weapon and a slow 10-10 movement is just asking for long range shot in the face (either in ARO or in active because she is so damn large you can't hide her)

    If CB want to make her useful, they should at least move her to S3
     
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  5. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache
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    At CC15 she needs to roll 12s to hit that box with DCharges. It is not allowed to deploy them then activate them afterwards.


    As for Andromeda, nope. I mean, in Operation Subsection I guess she can do some work but she is depending on you going first or successfully hiding her somewhere. With that big base... Nah. Too janky.
     
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  6. chaos11

    chaos11 Well-Known Member

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    How did Guard change?
     
  7. Postmortem

    Postmortem Kazak Arachnophile

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    Love the human model, hate the size, and for the 28-36 points I can think of a lot of other options. Definitely never in my Steel Phalanx lists, not enough points to throw her way. Maybe in OSS with Sup. Infiltration, but again it is hard for me to justify her cost.
     
  8. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Like this :

    Before (thanks to google cache)
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    So Andromeda can be burst 2 in CC, yeah ! She will die 10 time due to ARO on her very large base before that, oooh...
     
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  9. daszul

    daszul Well-Known Member

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    +1 Damage für Lvl1 and Lvl2,
    -3 opponent MOD for Lvl2
    +1 B for Lvl3 and Lvl4
    +3 Attack for Lvl4

    edit: got ninja'd...
     
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  10. Diphoration

    Diphoration Well-Known Member

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    I don't think her killing potential is what was (and still is) holding the model back.
     
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  11. DirgeOfAleph

    DirgeOfAleph New Member

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    Vanilla and Steel Phalanx = No

    OSS + Infiltration profiles = Yes

    I've had enough success taking a ~15 order list (Andromeda in the 10 group) with a Shukra lieutenant going first. Andromeda will rambo until she dies (NWI) or finishes her rampage and finds a place to go into suppressive fire. So much time people have wasted their first turn trying to dig her out while linked Dakini (Apsara) snipers and a Zaiyin (Assisted Fire) cover her.
     
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