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An Aleph SSS AFK list

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by dhellfox, Sep 25, 2019.

  1. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    this probably not viable list but I'm looking for a fun remote list were most if not all are G: remote presence/ jumper units.


    LT Marut = for the most orders possible from the TAG.
    Andromeda smg= just because spare points left over and couldn't field my ruda
    a squad of
    4 dakini tacs with x2 hmgs
    1 deva hacker
    Aspra jumper= to buff those tacbot squad
    Naga hacker KHD= to put in an anti hacker hacker hacker.

    (probably easier to list the models i don't have, garudas, arjunas and basically everything on the support list but a ruda and the recruitible mercs)

    what modifications to the list would you suggest and what tactics to play it effectively?
     
  2. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    In Army you can do "export list to forum" and then copy/paste it. It's far easier :)

    If i didn't do any mistakes your list is:
    Operations Subsection of the S.S.S.
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    [​IMG]9
    MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
    [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    ANDROMEDA Submachine Gun, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Breaker Pistol, DA CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 28)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DEVA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    I would suggest you change deva hacker to deva ahd + netrod:
    1. the standard hacker does not gives you anything you really need: you don't really have remotes to buff (since you have an apsara), you don't have airbone to buff ...
    2. the AHD is cheaper, that allows you to take a netrod for an 10th order
    3. the deva AHD brings you far more because it has lightning upgrade. Lightning is a powerful anti hacker program, allowing your hacker to protect himself and everything around him

    Here it is:
    Operations Subsection of the S.S.S.
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    [​IMG]10
    MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
    [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    ANDROMEDA Submachine Gun, Nanopulser, Flash Pulse / Breaker Pistol, DA CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 28)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    NETROD . (0 | 4)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    The list is still lacking IMHO. You have no engineer to repair your TAG (lost wounds, isolate / IMM statut ...) and no chain of command if your TAG go down. Your defense is OK but not that strong, because it depends heavily on the fireteam (which is solid through) and has no very long range options (read: missile launcher or sniper rifle. But that's a start. If you're not afraid, i would suggest you play it several times, you'll see what could be lacking.
     
  3. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    People who needs people?
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
    [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    PROBOT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    NETROD . (0 | 4)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    I suppose I'd run something like this. There is little need for a generic hacker if you're running a link + apsara and a Marut. Personally I'd rather like a Garuda in the list just to help give you some more aggressive options. Its pretty self sufficient. Group 1 Feeds orders into the link and the Marut. Group 2 is there just to deter attackers and refill Group 1.
     
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  4. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    thanks for the info about the export to forums function,

    how about this?

    SSS-AFK-01
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    MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
    [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    NETROD . (0 | 4)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    if i understand yudbots they're can move away from their owners and remote repair stuff right?
     
  5. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    Looks like its worth a shot for sure. You're right Everytime you activate the Engineer one of the yud bots can also activate and move around freely so long as they are both using the same skills.

    I'd suggest dropping the Paramedic and 1 Yudbot in favour of a Lamedh if you can get it. The Lamedh will always be where you want it to be. Still provides a cheap order and provides some nice zone defense. The downside is the Apsara and Post Humans dont get the benefit of saving their orders to the netrod if everything goes to shit.

    SSS-AFK-01-01
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    MARUT Lieutenant (Strategos L3) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Nanopulser / AP CCW. (3 | 120)
    [​IMG] KARKATA Flash Pulse / Knife. (0 | 0)
    DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    NAGA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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  6. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    G:Servants (yudbots) are not restricted to their controller's ZOC and can move freely about the board.

    An added benefit of the Lamdeh is the repeater it brings. The Deva AHD in your link is a great tool as the SSL2 boost is effective in the hacking area.
     
  7. TheRedZealot

    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    I believe you're thinking of White Hacking devices. AFAIK SSL2 is not effected by hacking area at all.
     
  8. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. I should have elaborated. It is the effect on Stealth that is important with a linked Hacker. As SSL2 Ignores Stealth you get some solid benefits in your hacking area against a number of targets
     
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    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    I'm still not sure I fully understand. SSL2 doesn't outright cancel Stealth. It does allow some benefits against stealth So if your opponent was in your zone of control you can use SSL1 to Delay your ARO and have better access to hacking programs if they do reveal against Stealth units. But this doesnt apply through the repeater itself it would have to be in the hacker's own zone of control.
     
  10. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    It's the other way around, Stealth has no effect against a trooper with 6th Sense, no range restrictions listed.

    http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Stealth

    Stealth, Sixth Sense and Deployable Equipment

    This Special Skill is not effective against troopers with the Sixth Sense Special Skill
     
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  11. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    It's not directly in the Sixth Sense rules, but in Stealth so it is a bit odd.
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    TheRedZealot Well-Known Member
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    God I hate that some of these skills have boxes for that and others dont.
     
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    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Hoping for N4 clean-up on that as well.
     
  14. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    ok thanks for all the feedback, hows this for a non tag afk list?
    question: can a ruda join a yadu duo fireteam since its a special fireteam choice?

    SSS-AFK-03
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    SHAKTI Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40)
    YADU Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, E/Marat, Drop Bears (Throwing Weapon) / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36)
    RUDRA MULTI Rifle, Mine Dispenser / Electric Pulse. (0 | 39)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    PROXY Mk.4 Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 20)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    SAMEKH Rebot Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  15. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    Yes it can join a yadu duo. The rudra can join any yadu fireteam, it counts as a yadu if you want.
    In your example you can not only create a "yadu" duo with a rudras, but you can create a yadu haris, since Shakti is also a yadu and has the "haris" skill, allowing her to create a haris fireteam.

    See there:
    http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Fireteam:_Haris

    Haris fireteams are very useful since they give nice bonus to their members, are flexible and easier to move than core fireteams.
     
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  16. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    kbeen building more afk lists and I'm looking for feedback.

    SSS-AFK-04
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    SHAKTI Hacker (Killer Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Sucker Punch) Mk12, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 40)
    ASURA Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 72)
    RUDRA MULTI Rifle, Mine Dispenser / Electric Pulse. (0 | 39)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    Rebot SAMEKH FTO Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    fireteams
    yandu haris + asura and ruda
    dakini core + deva and samekh

    had to sacrifice a proxy to get a msv unit (since i don't own the deva spitfire and dont really want to add a second to the list) and turned out cheaper to equip a spitfire
     
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    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Hey mate think I played you yesterday (recognised the ITS name). Thanks for the game, it was a good one.

    Since you are looking for feedback, after playing it here would be how I would tweak it.

    SSS-AFK-04──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]10
    ASURA Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 72)
    YADU (Fireteam: Haris) MULTI Rifle, E/Marat, Drop Bears (Throwing Weapon) / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 37)
    RUDRA MULTI Rifle, Mine Dispenser / Electric Pulse. (0 | 39)
    Rebot SAMEKH FTO Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17)
    DAKINI Tacbot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 21)
    DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    CSU Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11)
    DEVA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    APSARA (G: Jumper Level Z) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points


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    I kept it to 1 group since that's how it was. Basically just found a way to squeeze a third proxy in. Gives you a hidden midfield utility specialist / striker without going into 2 order groups.

    Also no big deal for our game but I think the Haris you had (Asura / Shakti / Rudra) isn't actually legal, since you would need the Yadu with the Haris skill to form that Haris so I fixed that too** [edit] - **I was wrong here it is legal - corrected below.

    One thing I considered is that if you switched the Asura to the Hacker It lv2 and the Rudras to the HMG + NCO Yadu, you could use those two Lt orders in the fireteam effectively on the NCO HMG Yadu (that's what the NCO rule allows). You seemed to really enjoy your Rudra though, so I left it in.

    Hope that gives you some food for thought!
     
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    Shakti is a yadu with the haris skill, so it is valid.
     
  19. Hachiman Taro

    Hachiman Taro Inverted gadfly

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    Oh thank you I missed that.

    Feel like getting NCO when your Lt lv2 is in a link, and / or a third proxy for a LI OSS list (or any Aleph list) is worthy of consideration tho.

    Kinda hope Haris will become a bit more like Core in N4. i.e. it's not a specific profile skill but something a whole troop type has. Would be simpler and less restrictive.
     
  20. dhellfox

    dhellfox The keeper of the Forgotten

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    thanks, out of the 3 matches that one was the most enjoyable though that map layout was brutal for me hehe
    ruda the riot shield ftw!

    anyway was good to see how the theory went into practice, though I'm still trying to move to close to a fun G: only list that would be fun
     
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