Hello, I have a Zondnautica in its dismounted Zondnaut w/ Zondmate state, in base-to-base contact. I wish to include them as part of a coordinated order. Typically, this would not be legal because they are a Peripheral/Controller. But, if I declare a movement skill that allows the Zondnaut to mount the Zondmate, under the General movement rules: "The new Troop Profile (Mounted/Dismounted) is applied for the entire Order Sequence, while the original profile will not be considered." So, let's run through an example: Order Expenditure Sequence 1. Acivation. I select the units for the Coordinated order, currently it seems like I've made an illegal move, because Zondnaut/Zondmate are not legal members of the coordinated order. Can I even keep going to 1.1? 1.1 Order Expenditure. Spend command token and order 1.2 Declaration of first skill. At this point, I could declare that I'm performing the mounting/movement, which would seem to allow it, as we now act as though the Mounted Profile was being used the whole time, and the Mounted Profile has no synchronized liabilities to deal with. Does that then retroactively make the inclusion legal?
Like yourself and Nuada stated, the dismounted Zondnatica can't be a member of a Coordinated Order so you wouldn't get past the first step of activation. You'd need to spend an Order to mount up first, or get the Zondmate into a null state.
Based on these responses: "The new Troop Profile (Mounted/Dismounted) is applied for the entire Order Sequence, while the original profile will not be considered." Should be modified to say "beginning at 1.1" or some such, since it doesn't seem to actually apply to the entire order sequence.
It is one of few remaining "quantum" concessions in the rules; while the rules need there to be a guard against activating a unit that is in a state that would prevent it, the rules also do not want the opponent to be able to interact with the original form of the unit through AROs or other triggers. Basically, without it there's a risk that you're about to spuriously clear states and a bunch of other unforeseen and unwanted consequences. Arguably, the Zondnautica provides a fairly great value for the points compared to regular motorcycles, so the consequence this has to the Zonenautica isn't necessarily unwanted.
The problem is that you're trying to act like it's applied retroactively, and it's not. What it's saying is: - The profile is applied for the entire rest of the order's resolution. - For everything that has not yet been resolved, use the new profile instead of the old one. which is going to be things like AROs, movement, answering the question "What's the trooper's ARM value?" if it takes a hit, etc. The same goes for pilots mounting and dismounting TAGs and motorcycles. There's no time travel involved in getting on a bike.
