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Again PanO didn't got it.....

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by eciu, Sep 2, 2019.

  1. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    ... a point increase on their TAGs.

    Lucky us ;P
     
  2. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    But we DID get Tactical Awareness on all our TAGs.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    Cant be bothered
     
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  4. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    PanO TAG are superiorrrrr
     
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  5. Cartographer

    Cartographer Well-Known Member

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    So I hear you want to spend 12 orders on you TAG per turn?

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]10
    PATSY GARNETT Submachine Gun, Nimbus Plus Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    SQUALO (Armored Cav.) (Varuna Div.)(Fireteam: Duo, Aquatic Terrain) MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / AP Heavy Pistol. (2.5 | 96)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    BIPANDRA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    ZULU-COBRA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
    Open in Infinity Army
     
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  6. MrNailbrain

    MrNailbrain Relentless Optimist

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    I have a Vanilla Jotun+Tik list that’s dying to hit the table. Will have to try it for the laughs.
     
  7. Werekill

    Werekill Well-Known Member

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    I love this change, and I also love how we didn't get any point cost increases.
     
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  8. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member

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    Then why reply?
     
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  9. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    Because its an edit mate.
    Id have much rather deleted the post
     
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  10. SmaggTheSmug

    SmaggTheSmug Well-Known Member

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    This makes my Frost-Giant's Daughter list funnier, but I probably still won't field it.
    But I am more eager to actually play this season. All I did last one was newbie games. Couldn't be bothered.
     
  11. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    Yeah, to be fair, the option to delete posts is much needed on this forum.

    But I think I can feel where you were going to go with that...

    And, yeah, I agree that this helps where it wasn't needed and hurts (because of the points increase) in a lot of places where it WAS.

    There ARE a few options where it's just good (vanilla Multi+Flame Squalo, Guijia, Lizard and all the other vanilla MBTs is where I think this should have been targeted, along with most of the ones they hit with a points increase (but probably with no points increase).

    Like, seriously, I think this makes me consider a Guijia in Vanilla Yu Jing in a way I simply never did before. It might not actually be a penalty to take one now.
     
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  12. Ravrohan

    Ravrohan Well-Known Member

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    I think I love this.
     
  13. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member

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    The points increase seems to target non MBTs and apparently PanO is nothing but. :P It's a weird cutoff where the Overdron gets the bump but the Seraph stayed the same. The Xeodrons I can understand as they have link team bonuses to consider. The others are head scratchers for sure. The fact that several already solid tags got buffs is kinda bonkers. Sphinx with an extra order is going to make people cry even harder. The Cutter becomes a bit more viscous in Varuna. The Avatar becomes more efficient. It's going to be interesting and I've been running a fair number of TAGs recently. It's just going to encourage me even more.
     
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  14. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    I think that was the point. Time will say if it was a bad decision.
     
  15. Shoitaan

    Shoitaan Well-Known Member

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    The tags were solid yes but people still favoured infantry spam. CB is making the choice during list building more compelling which I appreciate. Yet to see more tags in my meta though.
    I'm interested to know what this does for Uhlan stock though...
     
  16. Quehacesfede

    Quehacesfede Professional Catastrophiser

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    The Uhlan always got tough inner competition in NCA with the Squalo and the Swiss Guard.
     
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    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    I think there were three good choices.

    1: Give all TAGs Tactical Awareness at no cost.

    2: Give all TAGs Tactical Awareness at the usual cost of 4pts.

    3: Give all TAGs under 70pts Tactical Awareness at no cost and all TAGs over that threshold Tactical Awareness at the usual cost of 4pts.

    But instead they went for the only BAD choice I can see.

    All this means is that the TAGs which basically never saw play will never see play even harder, while the ones which occasionally got action will get that action slightly more often.
     
  18. Werekill

    Werekill Well-Known Member

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    With how it affected everyone besides PanO, it could also be a test for giving PanO even more of a faction identity besides just being shooty.

    Haven't people been asking for that for ages?
     
  19. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member

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    It does give it something definite against the Swiss
     
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  20. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member

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    To offer a counter point. Most MBTs were pretty tight on points depending on what list you were trying to make. They may have felt that the extra couple points on the high end would hurt its support too much to consider.