Hi everyone, I would like to have some advices on this list Yu Jing ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 4 CELESTIAL GUARD Monitor Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 13) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) HAC TAO (NCO) Heavy Machine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (1.5 | 65) DĀOYĪNG (Lieutenant [+1 Order], Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 30) GROUP 2 7 Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) GŬILÁNG (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Shock Mines ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30) GŬILÁNG (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines ( | Deployable Repeater) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 27) NINJA (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow ( ) / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 29) YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / CC Weapon, Heavy Pistol. (1.5 | 48) SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 16) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Im a noob, I started last year in N3 with ISS and I played for some months, then I comeback to play last week with N4 and I wanted to change from ISS to Yu Jing Vanilla because I really like Yu Jing and Vanilla was interesting. Now I did this list, I know that maybe is pretty ugly and with nosense, so I would be very grateful if u can give some advices and please be patient with me because I really suck and thank you so much.
In vanilla armies you are not allowed to form Fireteam, if that was your intention with CG and KS. Very strong long range attackers. Being both HI i would go with an Engineer instead of a Doctor. It would be a pity if Hac Tao or Yan Huo got Isolated or Immobilized!
First of all thank you for the feedback. yes that was my intention, now I should let it like I did with CG+Kuang shi or I have to modify it. For the HI, I should put some more hackers for safe from isolated or immo? I will see how to fix it, thank you again
Isolation and immobilization seems to be a meta thing. I usually run excessively HI-heavy (I've ran almost exclusively IA or IA-wannabe lists for over two years) and I can't remember ever being in a position where an Engineer would've been able to clear states (without suffering several DA shots getting there). Additionally, while you can't really rely on it, you can luck your way out of states using AROs. Doctors I typically get decent use out of in most games, though recently have been enjoying linked Paramedics immensely. As relating to this list, though, it is the REMs and the Yan Huo who are in most danger of actually needing attention, with the Guilang and Hac Tao having more of a prerogative to extend to where a (non-Asawira) doctor doesn't want to go. As a result I think the Yisheng will be able to do their job admirably, but their job is going to be fairly limited. On the other hand, a Gongcheng used to guard against states will need Yaozao. A Chaiyi and a Son-Bae isn't likely to be worth spending many orders on getting back up, and in any case the Gongcheng can probably hide nearby to administer prayers to the Omnissiah repair, so that leaves the Yaozao to try and keep up with the Hac Tao or potentially Jammed Guilang. Given how the list looks like, this might be a good sector to save points in, is what I'm saying. Maybe drop the Yisheng down to a Panggolin FTO for an extra Repeater (I hear they are decent discouragement against TAGs hunting the DZ for soft and juicy order mooks) and invest in a propaganda photographer a.k.a. Warcor?
[QUOTE = "Mahtamori, post: 382350, member: 382"] L'isolamento e l'immobilizzazione sembrano essere una meta-cosa. Di solito corro in modo eccessivamente HI-heavy (ho eseguito quasi esclusivamente elenchi di aspiranti IA o IA per oltre due anni) e non ricordo di essere mai stato in una posizione in cui un ingegnere sarebbe stato in grado di cancellare gli stati (senza soffrire) ) diversi scatti DA per arrivarci). Inoltre, anche se non puoi davvero fare affidamento su esso, puoi fortunatamente uscire dagli stati usando gli ARO. Doctor s Di solito ne faccio un uso decente nella maggior parte dei giochi, anche se recentemente mi sono divertito immensamente con i paramedici collegati. Per quanto riguarda questo elenco, tuttavia, sono i REM e gli Yan Huo ad essere maggiormente in pericolo di aver effettivamente bisogno di attenzione, con il Guilang e Hac Tao che hanno più prerogativa di estendersi a dove un medico (non Asawira) non lo fa ''. Voglio andare. Di conseguenza, penso che gli Yisheng saranno in grado di fare il loro lavoro in modo ammirevole, ma il loro lavoro sarà piuttosto limitato. D'altra parte, un Gongcheng usato per proteggersi dagli stati avrà bisogno di Yaozao. È improbabile che un Chaiyi e un Son-Bae valgano la pena di spendere molti ordini per rialzarsi, e in ogni caso il Gongcheng può probabilmente nascondersi nelle vicinanze per somministrare preghiere alla riparazione dell'Omnissiah , così che lo Yaozao cerchi di tenere il passo con L'Hac Tao o potenziale Jammed Guilang. Visto come appare l'elenco, questo potrebbe essere un buon settore in cui salvare punti, è quello che sto dicendo. Magari lasciate lo Yisheng a un Panggolin FTO per un ripetitore extra (ho sentito che sono un discreto scoraggiamento contro i TAG che cercano la DZ per mooks morbidi e succosi) e investite in un fotografo di propaganda aka Warcor? [/ CITAZIONE] Grazie per i consigli. Alla fine ho provato a risolverlo in questo modo. Yu Jing ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 6 GŬILÁNG (Hacker, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Shock Mines ( ) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 30) GŬILÁNG (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Shock Mines ( | Deployable Repeater) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 27) SON-BAE Yaókòng Missile Launcher / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1.5 | 16) CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 7) HAC TAO (NCO) Heavy Machine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (1.5 | 65) DĀOYĪNG (Lieutenant [+1 Order], Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 30) GROUP 25 / 1 WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse ( ) / Stun Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) PANGGULING FTO (Repeater) Light Shotgun ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 12) NINJA (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow ( ) / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 29) Zhanshi YĪSHĒNG Combi Rifle / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) MECH-ENGINEER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) YÁOZĂO PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) YĀN HUǑ Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon / CC Weapon, Heavy Pistol. (1.5 | 48) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I removed the CG+Kuang shi and let the Yisheng and added the engineer too for more support
I would naturally encourage you to try things out at least once before trying to impose my own preference for what I can make work on the tables I can expect and against the opponents I will expect to be facing. Something as simple as the best three opponents playing primarily say... Shasvastii, Haqq and Ariadna will naturally make anti-camo tactics more valuable, make it more valuable to hide lieutenants, and lead to a playstyle that prefers to keep your opponent at a distance. Unrelated to this, I love heavy machine gun heavy infantry and the Daoying LT2 has increased my objectives scoring in tournaments significantly. With that said, your second list has 11 orders with an irregular for conversion; and it is highly unlikely that you can make effective use of all of the orders on your two heavy hitters. More likely you'll find that one of them will have to travel a significant amount of orders before starting to accomplish things while the other will get order starved before it's done shooting. A split economy like that can effectively force you to spend orders completing objectives, of course, which is an area I myself struggle with, but what's true for the goose is most often true for the gander as well; it's not an outlandish situation where your primary combatants and your best situated specialists are both in the same group and both order starved while the other order group may end up just wasting orders. So in low order count lists I strongly recommend making a primary group with the second group being simple order refills and throw-away AROs (that is to say; Chaiyi and Warcor in one group, everything else in the other).
I see what do you mean, in fact this list is ones of many lists that I have in mind. Tomorrow I will play a match with my friend and I'll use your advices, and for that I thank you again. One last question, now for playing this list and others Im using other miniatures as proxies, my question is what shoud I play for first? There is something that is essential in the Vanilla or that you advice? My budget is 150$. Thank you again
You mean buy? Get what you find fun to play with, or fun to paint, or that looks great. If you're on a budget, you'll find that what you see is what you get may be a bit difficult in this game unless you find a list that works great for you and that you find fun; and if you do find a list or two like that, get miniatures from that list! So, basically, play a few games first and then decide based on your experience. That said, if you're hooked to the game, you'll want remotes unless you already have them. Get remotes that look good, don't worry about faction. I personally like the ruggedness of Yu Jing remotes and the O-12 remotes can easily pass for Yu Jing remotes, but others go outside faction to get remotes they think look decent. And given that your first experience will likely be that Hac Tao HMG will work great, that's probably also a good safe choice. As for what to test in future lists, try these units out a few games, they're well worth testing and their miniatures are great if you like them: Liu Xing / Tiger Soldiers, Krit Kokram, Mowang (it's a cheap-skates Hac Tao!), Guijia / Blue Wolf, and Hundun A cheaper, but still solid, option is to find a miniature to be your Taowu. I think you'll find Taowu in many a list.
Yeah, I meant to buy. Ok I'll try this future list and then I will repost a post of my experience with this lists. I dont know how many times I already said that but thanks you so much again for everything
