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400pts LI +SoF Tournament

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by BarbeChenue, May 6, 2019.

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  1. BarbeChenue

    BarbeChenue Well-Known Member

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    An upcoming tournament will have 400pts, 8SWC, with Limited Insertion and Soldiers of Fortune options.

    What can PanO do with this?
    We can expect players to bring Monofilament and E/M weapons, as well as plenty of hacking.

    Missions:
    • Frontline
    • Deadly Dance
    • Show of Force
    With SoF we have access to Smoke from several mercs. With LI and 400 points, we can afford to play TAGs, and have points for extras.
     
  2. AdmiralJCJF

    AdmiralJCJF Heart of the Hyperpower
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    This is just way to broad to pull meaningful answers.

    Do you have a Sectorial you want to run?

    Narrow it down just that much and I'd be able to give you some ideas.

    Any/all of our Sectorials could do those missions well.
     
  3. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    [​IMG]10
    CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    ZULU-COBRA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    ZULU-COBRA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    MACHINIST (Varuna Div.) (CH: Mimetism, Stealth, Aquatic Terrain) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KAMAU Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
    FUSILIER Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

    8 SWC | 400 Points

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    Can't CC/hack what you can't see. The ZC are there for ARO defense for the TAGs & revealing camo.

    Another option, this one has control of the midfield which is pretty good for frontline. You can also bully things out of your area.

    Varuna Immediate Reaction Division
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    CROC MAN Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    CROC MAN (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    CROC MAN (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    ZULU-COBRA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    KAMAU (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
    KAMAU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    ORC (Varuna Div.) (Multiterrain: Aquatic/Jungle, Stealth) HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 45)
    ORC (Varuna Div.) (Multiterrain: Aquatic/Jungle, Stealth) Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 37)
    ORC (Varuna Div.) (Multiterrain: Aquatic/Jungle, Stealth) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 41)
    SQUALO (Armored Cav.) (Varuna Div.)(Fireteam: Duo, Aquatic Terrain) MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / AP Heavy Pistol. (2.5 | 96)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()

    7.5 SWC | 400 Points

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  4. WiT?

    WiT? Well-Known Member

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    400pts truly is the best format


    Accept no Substitutes
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    JOTUM MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, D.E.P. / . (2 | 103)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    TIKBALANG HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    7 SWC | 399 Points
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  5. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    Who needs orders!?

    A reasonable proposition
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    [​IMG]5
    TIKBALANG HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SERAPH HMG, 2 Nanopulsers / EXP CCW. (2 | 79)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    DRÃGAO Hyper-Rapid Magnetic Cannon, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2.5 | 94)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SQUALO (Armored Cav.) MULTI HMG / AP Heavy Pistol. (2 | 93)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 49)

    8.5 SWC | 400 Points

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  6. BarbeChenue

    BarbeChenue Well-Known Member

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    The most TAGs I could fit in one list was:

    PanOceania
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    SERAPH HMG, 2 Nanopulsers / EXP CCW. (2 | 79)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    TIKBALANG (Fireteam: Duo) HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 86)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SQUALO (Armored Cav.) MULTI HMG / AP Heavy Pistol. (2 | 93)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER undefined. (1.5 | 68)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Panzerfaust / AP CCW. (1.5 | 51)
    [​IMG] SCARFACE Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. ()
    [​IMG] CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    8.5 SWC | 400 Points

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    But I don't think this makes a very good list. ;)
     
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    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    "good"... though I've played lists like this and they are surprisingly potent. Many of the tools for dealing with a TAG can run out of steam when facing several TAGs.

    That being said, 400 point lists have a tendency to have redundancy. Anything you see in 300 point game is what you see in 400 point games ... just more of it.
     
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  8. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    kudos for making me do a double take to make sure Warcors weren't changed to AVA 2 for vanilla PanO on the sly.
     
  9. BarbeChenue

    BarbeChenue Well-Known Member

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    Soldiers of Fortune allowing 75pts of mercenaries, including a second warcor, or a second Monstrucker, AFAIK. The app says it's compliant.

    I don't know about named characters though...
     
  10. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    There is still a limit for characters 1 in a list period.
     
  11. Sungwon

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    Military Orders──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 SERAPH Spitfire, Nanopulser + AUXBOT_3 / EXP CCW. (2 | 82) [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () TIKBALANG OF MONTESA (Religious Troop) AP HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / DA CCW. (2 | 92) [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 51) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (MediKit) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 39) KNIGHT HOSPITALLER HMG / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 39) KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 31) MONSTRUCKER (360º Visor) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Akrylat-Kanone, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 8 SWC | 398 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    Typical Joan sectorial
     
  12. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    How about this?

    Military Orders
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    DE FERSEN Spitfire / Pistol, Templar CCW (AP + Shock). (2 | 56)
    KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER HMG / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 39)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (Fireteam: Haris, MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    SERAPH Spitfire, Nanopulser + AUXBOT_3 / EXP CCW. (2 | 82)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    KNIGHT OF MONTESA Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 37)
    DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)

    6.5 SWC | 398 Points

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    Joan Link, De Fersen for some button pushing, Santiago KHD for bullying AHDs, Haris Doc for rebuilding a link if you need to, Seraph for a second large threat, Montessa for a third threat, Dart to really make a mess of things in the midfield.

    And that's not even getting into SOF options.
     
  13. Sungwon

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    I don't think Haris Doc is necessary unless you want make 2 two-manned links (like Fersen+Santiago & HMG+Doc). If you want to divide the full core into two fireteams, the only way is the duo with Joan+Santiago and hospitallers+Fersen, which can be haris but also can be a core.
     
  14. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    You cannot rebuild the Crusade Fireteam.
     
  15. BarbeChenue

    BarbeChenue Well-Known Member

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    I've tried two lists until now:

    Vs Adriano
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    [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68)
    SAITO TOGAN Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 39)
    CROC MAN Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    HEXA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 27)
    ZULU-COBRA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Jammer / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
    CROC MAN Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 400 Points

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    And this JSA one:

    Three on the table
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    O-YOROI Lieutenant AP HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas / EXP CCW. (3 | 86)
    KEMPEI (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW, Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
    TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    SAITO TOGAN Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 39)
    SHINOBU Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0.5 | 47)
    ONIWABAN Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0 | 41)
    ONIWABAN Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (0 | 41)
    NINJA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0.5 | 40)
    NINJA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0.5 | 40)
    NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)

    4.5 SWC | 398 Points

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    Basically, my plan is to hide until I need to score. I don't feel like leaving ARO pieces up is wise in this format: active turn pieces will be *VERY* strong, and each order counts. I need to waste waste enemy orders without losing any myself. I want to have all my orders if I play second.
     
  16. Hexa

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    I'd probably take something like this:
    PanOceania──────────────────────────────────────────────────[​IMG]4 [​IMG]6 CUTTER MULTI HMG / . (2.5 | 115) [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () JOTUM MULTI HMG + Heavy Flamethrower, D.E.P. / . (2 | 103) [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () SERAPH HMG, 2 Nanopulsers / EXP CCW. (2 | 79) [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 8.5 SWC | 398 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    This is basically mostly taking the two TAG list I've been playing in ordinary games and adding a Jotum.


    A pity it's limited insertion or you could start the list with something like this then fill the remaining points to taste.

    PanOceania──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]1 [​IMG]9 JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50) HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) LIBERTO (Minelayer) Light Shotgun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 [​IMG]5 WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) McMURROUGH 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / Templar CCW (AP + DA). (0 | 32) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) 2.5 SWC | 197 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
    Deploying most of the Bashi Bazouks and Yuan Yuans on the table.

    ... Inspiring Leadership REALLY shouldn't work on Soldiers Of Fortune.