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3 Man/Harris Fire team?

Discussion in 'Ariadna' started by StuporMundi75, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. StuporMundi75

    StuporMundi75 Member

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    Dear Sirs/(Madams?),

    I was curious if any of you have tried out some form of 3 man (or Harris) link in TAK. I am interested in trying one out and currently looking into testing out the following combinations:

    - Frontovik w/Molotok
    - Frontovik (engineer) w/LRL
    - 112

    or

    - Frontovik w/Molotok
    - Frontovik (engineer) w/LRL
    - Vet Kazak (Paramedic)

    (This is assuming that I have understodd the "Up to" text under the frontovik special fire team composition rules)

    I am just not sure if it makes any sense. Have any of you tried it out?

    BR,

    Viktor
     
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  2. coleslaw

    coleslaw Veteran
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    You can form a 3-man core fireteam as above. But if you want a Harris you need to take a model with the skill.
     
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  3. Laconius

    Laconius New Member

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    I want yo try in my next game a haris of:
    - Veteran kazak (Haris)
    - Frontovik Paramedic (medikit)
    - Frontovik with heavy rocket launcher.

    I'll tell you my experience when I play it.

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  4. Abydog

    Abydog Well-Known Member

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    i am also considering a 3 man fireteam, consisting of a vet kazak AP hmg, a 112 and a frontovik.

    haven't had a chance to try them out yet
     
  5. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    I see no reason to take a 3 man Core. Doesn't make any sense. For 18 pts you get a full link with +3BS.
     
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  6. Laconius

    Laconius New Member

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    In my case, I want to use a 5 man Core + 3 man Haris. Is It possible, right?

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  7. coleslaw

    coleslaw Veteran
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    As long as one model in the Harris has the Harris skill, yes
     
  8. StuporMundi75

    StuporMundi75 Member

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    Hi Zsolt,

    I would also like to use the Harris or 3-man special FT together with a 5 man Line Kazak based defensive FT. I was just curious if anyone had tried it.

    Viktor
     
  9. Zsolt

    Zsolt Well-Known Member

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    I may misunderstand you, but you can only have 1 Core and 1 Haris, so you can't have a Line Kazak Core, a 3 man Core and a Haris.

    Also in my opinion that defensive core should also include an AP HMG Vet Kazak for active turn shooting, and some spare Line Kazaks around, when the ARO pieces get shot down.

    You can also have some Line Kazaks around your Haris, then you can swap between the links.
     
  10. LankyOgreBP

    LankyOgreBP Well-Known Member

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    As I posted in another thread, I’m toying around with the idea of bring two 5-man core fireteams. I’ll use one during the active turn and then form the second one for the reactive turn. Some of our fireteams are cheap enough that we have the points for it. Though it might be expensive in command tokens.
     
  11. StuporMundi75

    StuporMundi75 Member

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    Hi,

    no, no! I was only consider a 5 man link a harris or a 3 man link - not both. Your comments however make a lot of sense. I am still learning the game so any input is worth gold!

    Best Regards
     
  12. mightymuffin

    mightymuffin Well-Known Member

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    I'd quite like to try a Haris of Vet Kazaks + Voronin (Sensor), mainly as a flanking force but also cos they essentially behave like a 4-man link cos of Sixth Sense.
    Although I wouldn't bother with a 3-man Core in TAK unless I absolutely needed to save the 0.5SWC the Haris skill costs; mainly cos I tend to start with a 5-man Core link anyway.
     
  13. Barracuda

    Barracuda Cheeki breeki

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    Yesterday I played a defensive core of line kazak, two of them snipers, and a haris of veterans. The haris was quite hard, five dice of hmg ap are powerful, and the other two with the flamethrowers and the sixth sense create an important security perimeter in ARO.

    Once the HMG is down, two veterans remain in the middle of the table to continue fighting or block the table in suppression fire and flamers. This can be a distraction so that the spetsnazs can flank them.

    The problem is, they are a bit pricey. If the strategy fails or they die horribly, there is no more room for more tools.
     
  14. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    You could always try 2 Vet Kazaks and a Frontovik to keep the points down a little.
     
  15. D_acolyte

    D_acolyte Active Member

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    These are not legal haris options, so they would take up your core fireteam slot.

    You could do a haris with these models for a mix model haris:
    Frontovik Haris profile with T2 rifle and costing .5 swc
    Then either some combinations of 2 Frontovik, Vet Kazak or Colonel Voronin.
    The 112 is not usable because that is a special fireteam core. If you do not want to use your core slot then yes you could make a fireteam core of 3 men, but I am assuming you do not want to do that.
    I like this one, though I still need to play it:
    Frontovik Haris
    Frontovik engineer
    Vet Kazak AP HMG
     
  16. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    You can also take the Vet Kazak Haris if you want to make the team a little more durable and get the DTW
     
  17. D_acolyte

    D_acolyte Active Member

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    I think if you have a Vet Kazak haris guy as the haris option then it is a Vet Kazak haris and not a Frontovik Haris. This would mean that it is all Vet Kazak or Vet Kazak + Colonel Voronin. Is there an FAQ on this I am missing?
     
  18. colbrook

    colbrook Black Fryer

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    It doesn't matter who has the Haris skill, as long as one member has it.

    A Frontovik Haris needs A) 2-3 Frontiviks (or wildcards), and B) A trooper with the Haris skill.

    If there is an exception then it'll be noted for example in the JSA Domaru+Karakuri Haris it must be the Domaru that has the Haris skill.
     
  19. StuporMundi75

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    Ah, shit. Now I finally understand why so many people have opposed my set-up :) Sorry for being slow. I completely missed that both of my options were core fire teams.... thanks for the input everyone and again sorry for being slow on th uptake.
     
  20. Jandrus

    Jandrus We're naught but humble pirates!

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    I played a list with a hi performance. The links where:

    Core:
    - Voronin
    - Frontvik HRL
    - Line Sniper

    Haris:
    - Veteran Mk12
    - Veteran Medikit
    - Frontvik Haris

    Y could swap between full core with the 2 vets and 3 man defense core and hard hitting haris, depending on the situation.

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