Well, nothing was wrong until I saw this: I mean, come on, 27 - 0.5 for a WIP 18 midfield doc + palbot... I dunno, I am at loss of words, seriously. Look at them, then at Bipandra, now at them again. Feel like a Hyperpower yet? P.S.: and still normal smoke is OP for Pano. Okeh. P.P.S: Oh, and note how their palbot gets AD, no Seraph-style shit here. Why is that, I wonder...
You're upset that a BS11 doctor, from the faction that already has access to WIP18 doctors, is similar to something you imagined for a Sectorial that doesn't exist and won't for several years?
As a Yu Jing player I am really thankful for this thread. Here, have your crown back, no take-backsies! KTHXBYE! PD: Nasmat A2 has AD2 because this is Haqqs Tomcats. Except worse because no robot cat titties.
And? It's Haqq, their doctors are all epic. We're PanO, we shoot and kill things. He still has to get BtB to use Doctor+, his BS stinks for his Medjector. Swings and roundabouts.
Nobody show this guy Avicenna! Or the Tuareg! Or any other Haqq doctor, they get Nasmats too. It's literally a Haqq Tomcat, less good in a firefight but better at doctoring what did you expect?
I am upset because of the ways _certain factions_ get their units designed: that is, in an interesting way. This one is a great toolbox, he's not "just another doctor". Please remind me the last time a PanO unit received a special skill that no one else had, created specifically for that unit.
Why is there so much whining? This guy is good - he's expensive though. I would expect just as interesting profiles in Varuna whenever that decides to come out. I hope we get an interesting Hacker.
I would not be jealous. The Hakim is certain to be quite popular...as a proxy. People will take the SMG occasionally, but not often when: It's wasting precious points with Regeneration. It's a WIP18 doctor in a faction with linkable WIP17+ doctors. It's consuming SWC in a sectorial that wants to blow SWC on the Fatality L2 Khawarijs. It'll guarantee that nobody takes the Cube Jäger in vanilla Haqq, but not much else.
I should have added a large "SARCASM" to the thread name. :( Still, the guy is a great specialist, and he's not expensive for what he can do, it seems he's worth every point. In short, what I was trying to illustrate is that PanO can't have nice things. I hate the way it is designed - as a high tech dedicated specialist. In a *high-tech* faction we get WIP 13 at best (Ok, there are also Nagas in ASA), that are much more expensive and much less flexible. The "we only shoot things" thing is not an excuse, Haqq shoots things, and ISS does too, as well as any other faction.
Having Acon as my primary sectorial, I am used to things that consume SWC and would trade a lot to have this guy available. Or, if doctors are not for PanO, I would be glad to pay 27 0,5 for a wip 15 midfield specialist. Say, engineer. What's an excuse for us to not have skilled specialists anyway? :D
Haqq get superior WIP, we get superior BS. I make a lot more BS rolls during a game than WIP rolls so I'd say that's a fair trade.
And I'm sure Haqq would be grateful to have the Black Friar MULTI Sniper. That doesn't mean you want to use it. The excuse for why PanO does not have skilled specialists is because PanO is "superior equipment", and not "superior training". Whether that excuse flies for you, is up to you, but that is the excuse that has been floated over the years. Even Fusiliers were explained by Bostria in an old fluff video that they have special equipment helping them to aim. That's just represented by BS12, of course, rather than Tinbot F: Inferior Spotter.
There are many other things for us to have a legitimate complains about. Slightly ower average WIP and less interesting specialists aren't one of them, at least for me. Hakims are a nice unit, typical for Haqq, nothing to get jealous about.
A good point, but while their specialists are way cheaper and have superior WIP, BS of their main offensive pieces is usually about 1 lower or equal to PanO BS - 12+ 3 in Govad and Muyib links and Hafzas, 14 for Asawiras, 13 for Khawarijs and so on. So it's not that they don't have units with OK BS. The thing is we don't have specialists with OK wip. (yeah, minus Nagas) And WIP is critical to score in ITS.
I'm a huge PanO whiner and I think this thread isn't necessary. If this exact profile was available to us I don't think I'd use it much. that skill sucks tho
And the Nasmat still has to get BtB, his weapons are all quite short ranged, and he's got little to protect him when he gets shot.
Are you seriously trying to convince me that a BS 11 WIP 15 doc (with regen and bla bla bla) with a palbot is worse than a wip 13 doc with a palbot?))) (Bipandra for 23+3) Because, you know, any doctor has to get their palbots into BtB.
I would consider WIP 13 to be "Average". The Hexa, Nisses, Bagh-mari, Regulars, Akal, and any of the knights would like a word with you. Our Wip is lower than average on our most basic things with every thing else coming in at a leisurely 13. WIP 14 is pulling into the premium range and 15 is the corvette of WIPs
