Is the use of TinBot mandatory?

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by zebo, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. zebo

    zebo New Member

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    I mean, since is a piece of equipment with Automatic, but not Obligatory, could I NOT use the TinBot C of the Yan Huo in active turn to keep the R2?

    Its weird, but I'm not sure.
     
  2. inane.imp

    inane.imp Well-Known Member

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    No. Neurokinetics is obligatory, so you have to use that skill.

    I mean I love the argument, but it's not how it's played.
     
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    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Neurocinetics on the Yan Huo was weird from the beginning. Neurocinetics doesn’t actually work on the ML’s, because the full burst of the weapon is still 1, so they would have B1 despite the 2 ML’s and Neurocinetics. Luckily CB were quick to make a FAQ on the matter, adding a clausul that allowed you to benefit from the Twin Weapons Bonus. :joy:
     
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  4. zebo

    zebo New Member

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    I understand how neurokinetics works.
    But Yan Huo doesn't have Neurokinetics.
    Yan Huo has a TinBot that gives him Neurokinetics.
    The TinBot has not the Obligatory trait.
    So are you sure that the use of the TinBot is mandatory?
     
  5. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    It also doesn't have the Optional label in order for you to be able to turn it off:
    • Optional. The use of this Special Skill or Equipment is optional and can be waived.
     
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  6. zebo

    zebo New Member

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    Didn't knew even that the Optional Trait exist.

    How can be explained things that are Obligatory, things that are Optional, and things that aren't anything of those?
     
  7. Tom McTrouble

    Tom McTrouble Well-Known Member

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    It's automatic equipment without the optional label. It is automatically active and you dont't have the option to not use it.
     
  8. zebo

    zebo New Member

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    The MSV is also an Automatic equipment with the Obligatory label, so what's de difference?
     
  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Though, incidentally, a Yan Huo hit by a Muttawiah's Jammer, will be back at Burst 2 during active turn for their 1 single Irregular order, because Isolated will remove access to the obligatory skill Neurocinetics. :)
     
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  11. zebo

    zebo New Member

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  12. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    In this case we fall back on the fact that Infinity is a permissive ruleset.

    The rules do not say that you can choose not to use a TinBot, therefore you must always use it.
     
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  13. zebo

    zebo New Member

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    The rules do not say that I'm forced to use a TinBot, so ...
     
  14. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    on the converse, the rules do not say you can choose to not use a tinbot.
     
  15. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Actually they do. The rules say that having a TinBot C gives you Neurocinetics. There is no option not to use it.
     
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