Hi, lemme be straight, I love Uhlans, I love their fluff, their model, everything about this unit. Yet it sucks.... and is borderline unplayable, cuz there is no surprises and so many limitations, so here is my proposal for a fix: UhLan, skills: forward deployment L, ambush camo, mimetism. Gives more deployment options, some interesting possibilities and no re-camouflage ;)
You seem to have misunderstood how Ambush Camo works; Hardcases are able to re-camo during the game. They just don't get to put down a new decoy.
Ok my bad, original point stays. Ambush camo would help them be useful as distraction, force multiplier. Give him limited camo... or whatever... This thread was opened as an attempt to brainstorm, I don't want to OP the uhlan, I would like to see it live up to the concept.
Can we stop with the "this isnt good fix it" Its not the uhlan. The uhlan is brutal and perfectly fine piece of kit albiet expensive.it does exactly what its supposed to do.
The whole strength of the Uhlan is that you get the protective Camo state, and you want to take that away? This thing murders the crap out of just about anything it shoots at. It could be a little cheaper and it could have better support options, but it doesn't need any rules or stat changes.
The protective benefits of the camo state are very significant even if your opponent knows exactly what the model is. That's why people are so often willing to spend an order to re-camo models. It doesn't make your opponent forget what the model is, but it does make it ineligible to be targeted and gives you the advantage of surprise shot.
Ooo oh cheers got that now... too long out of the loop. So if uhlan is "perfect just the way it is, if a tad pricey" or lacks support, what'd you do, how much would you drop it I price? If you think I am twining, you misunderstood me.... or I expressed myself poorly. If my suggestion is bad, what is yours? I do not mean to shit-stir guys
Spetsnaz could do with a buff too, Marksmanship only works if the enemy is in cover. Maybe they could be BS15? Ghazis are Irregular and Impetuous, I think they need infiltrate to be worthwhile. Posthumans are too expensive, they need a small improvement like Fatality L2. /sarcasm
On a more serious note, the Uhlan is the ultimate long range sniper, Surprise Shot and the Feueueurerebach's long +0 range band lets it crack armoured targets whilst staying in the average TAG's -3 band. Then you've got the DAM16 HMG for chewing through everything else. Lacking a close range weapon means you want to play keep-away, kiting your opponent. An Uhlan needs support, whilst you can re-camo to protect yourself from hackers it needs a screen to prevent enemies getting close. This is where units like Auxilia, Acontecimento Regular minelayers, Peacemakers, etc all come into play. If you can remove your enemy's long range threats the Uhlan also makes a particularly nasty ARO piece due to that aforementioned Feueueurerebach rangeband, don't expect it to hold up against active APHMGs or TO snipers though.
Id learn to use it as is rather that wishlist what I want, because its damn good. Its a BS15, Camo TAG with ARM6 and S6. It has a DAM16 HMG and -9s opponents trying to attack it in ARO. It will mulch anything but Riotgrrls in active (and thats not even a joke) and has either an EXP B1 DAM15 shot or a AP+DA B2 Dam 15 shots. Its very hard to hit and it Hits very hard and very fast. It comes in the sectorial with PanOs best hacking defense in the form of multiple TO KHDs (Naga are good too though) and the EVO. This sectorial also has ready access to numerous speculative fire weapons and DTWs to clear out skirmishers and warbands. What exactly are you having trouble with your Uhlan? Opponents hiding from you too much? take a Squalo and punish them for that instead, or cap all the buttons or advance kill the one or two pieces that matter and drop in Supression Fire (Not unsupported) and laugh as they try to fight your BS15 monster at -9 to hit (SF, Camo, Cover) while your chucking B3 back at them on 15s or 12s If you are having trouble forcing your opponent to fight your Uhlan then you need to get better at where you park it, force your opponent to fight the Uhlan if they want to advance. Finally if you're going to come back and say "But X, Y, Z Kills it.." Well if you know X, Y, Z are an issue why are you not taking steps to deal with them or not put your TAG where it can be attacked by them? EDIT: Oh....and it scores...
It literally has surprise attack. Uhlans are great, especially since getting fatality. Being a remote presence TAG alone makes it one of the better ones. It's S value lets it traverse and vault a lot of terrain without using camo breaking skills and yeah, it will shred anything up to a visor link. It gets overlooked because the Swiss has a cheaper buy in for better mods, but an Uhlan playing to it's strengths is way scarier.
