New player - what does yu jing do well

I haven't played too much YJ myself, so I'll defer to the judgement of others, but it seems vanilla YJ seems to be good at leveraging really tough and versatile rambo HI supported by really cheap and minimalistic filler. You don't have LI with camo or mimetism to win gunfights, so you'll be relying on armored superiority to win there. Units like Hsien, Hac Tao, Yan Huo, Crane ranks, Dao Fei, and Su Jian, and Sunny D himself are all quite popular.
Unlike PanO, you also have smoke, so Shaolin are good and can be used with the Hsien and Rui Shi remote for smoke shenanigans. We also have Tiger Soldiers which are runners for the best AD troops in the game (BS13 + mimetism + flamethrowers = pain), top-notch skirmishers (Ninjas for cheap killer hacking and TO-camo shanking. Gui Lang have camo + MSV1 + FO + deployable repeaters for 26 points!!!!!!!! Ridiculous value), and Kuang Shi (regular order + chain rifle for looking over deployment for 5 points).
In the future, we'll be getting Invincible Army. I don't think it's anytime soon, though. They said there'd be a closed battle list or two for IA coming around the Beasts of War event, so that's sometime during the summer and we'll also see some profiles. Don't count on that, though. For now, focus on using units like the Hsien and Hac Tao to blast enemies to smithereens.

 

White Noise podcast has an interview with Bostria just recently he talked about the closed battle lists, they are for IS to represent the forces in Uprising.

 

As someone who plays vanilla Yu Jing this is dissapointing news.

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast...ame-podcast/id1271706321?mt=2&i=1000408288023

Its around the 15 minute mark

 

Both: Sun Tze, Su Jian, Kuang Shi.

ISS: tons of fireteam interactions with mixed troops, however other factions are starting to get mixers aswell (in the NA2 mainly). Also, heavy troops and cheap orders, but little smoke.
Some Aleph units, specially the sweet Sophotect.

Vanilla: Daofei, a camo infiltrator HI, and Guilang, a camo with MSV1 very good pick. Yan Huos, Hac Taos, Shaolin Monks, Tiger Soldier (mimetic AD Troop)...

 

At a high level, Yu Jing is that glorious middle ground between high tech and low tech. Haqq and Nomads also occupy this middle ground unlike the two extremes - PanO and Ariadna.

PanO is super high tech (MSV3, TAGs galore, high BS, lots of TO and some ODD) but doesn't have any of the low tech perks.

Ariadna is super low tech (very little MSV, no TAGs really, low BS, just regular camo), but they make up for it by having tons of cheaper units, Warbands, etc.

Yu Jing probably cuts the middle the best out of all of them. Sure, the Hsien is no Aquila with his reduced MSV and weaker BS, but he makes better use of his MSV2 due to in-faction access to Smoke, and he can get a lethality bump through Haris in ISS. The Hac Tao isn't as good at shooting as the Swiss Guard, but he trades a bit for a KHD profile and a stock Nanopulser. Yu Jing also has great access to cheap DZ defense and orders (Kuang Shi), Warbands (Monks), a pretty decent TAG (the Guijia), cybercat, and excellent midfield control in the form of Gui Lang, Ninjas, and Kanren (especially those with Mad Traps).

 

So no one will use them then? I thought the point of a cbl was to tease an upcoming sectorial and its workings.

 

Bostria said that there will be some unique mechanics to play with.

 

It could be good, we have nothing to lose in these so I am just going to wait and see.

 

Even so people don't want cbls of iss, we want IA. You can play your one remaining sectorial in a limited but slightly different way versus here's a taste of the next sectorial since we took one away from you.

 

Pls dont tell me what I want ans what Not. And pls stop praising IA as the new Messiah, because that will be WB.

So let me explain, why IA ist not that good as you think. At first we have one sectorial who runs a HI Link and the Cat pretty good. HI Link backed up by 20 Orders ist crazy. So in this case there is no need for IA, Zuyong are just the crappy version of that.

Second and that is was more important, White Banner will Bring a was more different playstyle to the table. The whole camo stuff is totally different to IS, where IA is just as straight forward (but without 8 KS) as IS.



So just stop crying plox.

 

"Don't tell me what to think! Here's why what you think is wrong!"

Hmmmmmmmmm...

Also, White Banner is 2+ years away at best. So forgive those of us who do want/like IA for wanting it.

 

Yeah but white banner is over two years away by current knowledge and is therefore irrelevant to this discussion where as iss already exists in a complete state profile wise and IA is going to either late this year or early next year. There's no point saying what ia can and cannot do yet either so yeah I would rather get IA cbls rather than cbls for iss during a specific time period. You feel me dawg?

 

I understand you. Its just that I have the feeling that IA is not what will make the YJ players happy.
Same story, different Pen.

I cant stand the negativity here. YJ hast very flexible units and a good amount of different playstyles. I just dont think that IA will add much time it.

 

If IA is decent, it will make most YJ players pretty happy. Most players are mad that YJ lost flexibility (which more units adds), not that they lost JSA. And if IA doesn't add more flexibility as potentially the most HI focused sectorial of the HI faction, we're going to have a problem.

 

They will find a way for it to get to a decent about of orders weather through drone ava inspiring leadership or a new cheap unit. IA will be more than fatties waddling round the table in link teams.

 

What does YJ do well? Complain. :P

To clarify, I'm also on not happy side. ;) Nevertheless YJ is still very flexible and competent army with loads of fancy toys to use.

I also think that implementing IA to YJ is not an easy task. CB has to come up with something cool if we are to see something fresh and not wu ming with breaker pistols.

I don't like the whole idea of cbls. The svalarheima cbls look crap to me and I fear that if you bring new, shiny IA/ISS cbl to anything other than a friendly game, it won't hold the ground for too long. The only good thing about IA one is that we could see preview of some units.

 

This nails it pretty much on the head. Yu Jing is a great all rounder. The HI focus means we get an amzing assortment from cutthroat bargain two wound troopers to amazing power pieces. With the structure of the rest of the army, it's not hard to bring multiple HI. The relatively common direct templates also let us force bad choices on active.

Nomads and Haq do have us beat in the low mid cost utility/specialist.

As far as IA vs WB, I don't mind either. I'd rather just see something so I know what the future has in store for the faction.