So, here's what I've come up with: Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 1 MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39) EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35) ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 4 1 SPECTOR (Regular) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 36) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army - Brawler Haris with B3 MSV 2 MSR, supported by Irmandinho smoke. If the Haris breaks, you can fill it up with either Spector or the CSU. If they kill your MSR, get in Spector for a B4 Multi Rifle and advance. If your Haris Brawler dies, you still have a second one to keep the Fireteam up. - Emily + cheap Alguacile Core to fuel that GL and have a long-range option with the ML. - Avicenna with Zondbot keeps important pieces alive and takes care of doctor objectives. - Mobile Brigada rambo LT gets to shine once the MSV and smoke have cleared the way for him to advance and/or set up suppressive fire at important places. - Uhahu for flavour and as a competent hacker to round the specialists out (also, Assault pistol and NWI oO). - One Warcor as filler.
I would be tempered to get combat remotes or FO infiltrators instead of the extra Haris bodies. The remotes synergies amazing with Uhahu and the Irmandinho while FOs might help with Grenades.
Good point! I could squeeze in an Al Hawwa FO (I totally missed that entry). Combat Remotes would syngerize well, but Tsyklons are rather pricy and SML remotes are pretty much Ikari's/DBS's thing now. Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 1 MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39) EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35) ALGUACIL Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) GROUP 2 4 1 SPECTOR (Regular) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 36) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) CSU Breaker Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) 4.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
I always struggle with list building, and seeing what will work with what, I want to play this faction purlybecause of the Anaconda, outrage, aveincienna( how ever its spelt) and roit grrls all some of my fave minis. How to get them into a list though is another matter. this is what i have managed to get but having never used remotes imunclear on how they work. Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34) RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) EMILY Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) ANACONDA (Fireteam: Duo) Spitfire + Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 62) OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0) BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) CSU (Specialist Operative) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) GROUP 2 2 SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
It's definitely not an easy thing and we're in the same boat as far as list building goes. I don't get to play very often, so things that might seem obvious to more experienced players will obviously be overlooked by more inexperienced players like you and me. Looking at your list, I'd suggest the following: - Try and make the Core link 5 people to enjoy the + 3 Bonus on BS attacks. If I read the entry correctly, you can take either Avicenna or Emily in a Riot Grrl core, so you'd have to field another Riot Grrl to make it work. - The big thing about Haris links is the + 1 Burst to the link leaders BS attack. If you intend on using the CSU as the Haris Leader, that's fine, but there are other models who might benefit more from that bonus (particularly the Brawler MSR). With an expensive core and a TAG, a Haris might be too expensive to fit in. - The two Salyuts in the second command group might not be optimal, since they do not provide their orders to anyone else and don't do much by themselves. If you are going with Anaconda + Riot Grrl core link, you could scrap them altogether and use the points elsewhere. How would you like this approach: Spoiler Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 10 AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34) RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) EMILY Breaker Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) ANACONDA (Fireteam: Duo) Spitfire + Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 62) OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) 4.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
You can cram the Avicenna/Emily + 4 Grrls, Anaconda, Uhahu into a single list. No idea how it would go, I'm thinking it might be alright if you just wanted to administer some ass kicking. And you can run it all female if you wish, proxy the Hacker Brigada as the BS Lt and Beba as the Anaconda pilot. Starco. Free Company of the Star──────────────────────────────────────────────────9 ANACONDA (Fireteam: Duo) Spitfire + Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 62) OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0) MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33) AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34) RIOT GRRL (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35) 5 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army Just realised if you drop the Specialist Grrl, drop Uhahu and make Emily the non CoC profile, you can make the Brigada the Tinbot and bring an Alguacile Hacker + LT
I like all the points raised so far i was thinking about efficency with the multiple groups they way i have had them. I’m thinking uhahu would benefit from some remotes but hacking is all new to me. I have been playing tohaa so remotes and hacking is something I have not had to worry about. Kicking ass and chewing gum sounds good though
I have nothing to add here yet really but am loving this Sectorial so far in theory if nothing else. I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with while I slowly paint up my Nomads and wait to see what the Brawlers look like.
Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) TSYKLON Feuerbach, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 34) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) AVICENNA Combi Rifle, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) RIOT GRRL Boarding Shotgun, Stun Grenades + TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) RIOT GRRL Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 34) RIOT GRRL Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29) RIOT GRRL Combi Rifle, Blitzen, Stun Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29) GROUP 2 2 1 1 JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10) JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Nice long range support in the Brawler Haris and a supported Tsyklon. If you take the Spitfire Tsyklon for White Noise Hunting instead you could upgrade a Jaguar to the panzerfaust/ADHL version for armor busting. 2 blitzen and 3 stun grenades should work well for stopping said armor and taking it out with either the Feuerbach or panzerfaust.
Personally I prefer my Riot Grrls as specialists so they can complete objectives. Its worth dropping the Zondbot just to do that. Otherwise, its a list that can certainly work.
Here's what I'm probably going to try next game: Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 2 8 2 1 ANACONDA (Fireteam: Duo) HMG + Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 64) OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0) MOBILE BRIGADA Lieutenant MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39) EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35) SPECTOR (AD: Combat Jump) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 33) MOBILE BRIGADA Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 40) DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 26) IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) HAWWA' Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 26) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I see a lot of potential for a larger list, it has all my favorite units for that. Hellcats, Hawwa Sniper, Hardcase, Alguacilles Core, Jaguars. But there is no way I am turning down that Anaconda Duo. Maybe something like this: Starco. Free Company of the Star ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10) BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25) ANACONDA (Fireteam: Duo) HMG + Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 64) OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0) MOBILE BRIGADA MULTI Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39) ALGUACIL Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 10) ALGUACIL MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18) ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GROUP 2 3 2 1 IRMANDINHO Chain Rifle, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) HARDCASE FRONTIERSMAN Tactical Bow, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) HAWWA' Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) ZONDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Here's what I've been working on. Really trying to decide if I want to build list using Haqq tactics or Nomad ones. StarCo ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 HAWWA' (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21) BANDIT Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Light Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 25) JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10) UHAHU Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Pitcher, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25) EMILY (Chain of Command) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and E/M), Nanopulser / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35) SPECTOR (Regular) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, E/M2 CC Weapon. (0 | 36) BRAWLER (Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) DAKTARI Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) GROUP 2 4 TSYKLON Spitfire, Pitcher / Electric Pulse. (1 | 31) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CLOCKMAKER Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) 4 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
The lists I came up with looked pretty similar, but when I take all the units I want in StarCo the list was kinda low on used up SWC. I guess Raoul is the obvious choice to replace with a swc weapon unit here. The question is, if that's really is necessary or if his killability is enough.
True, that was my concern as well. I'm hoping that Drop Bears, his E/M2 CC prowess and the Multi rifle will make up for that. If his model turns out to be ugly, I will consider other options :P Another thing is Knauf. I'd love to field him for the theme alone, but the Brawler Sniper just seems so much better in a Haris and with MSV2. Maybe I'll proxy the model with the Knauf miniature or commit to a conversion ...
Yeah, but I feel they are significantly better, even considering the additional cost. You'll want the orders anyway and 2 SCW is a good enough deal for a B3 MSV 2 MSR, I think.
Mimetism and +1 BS is statistically similar or stronger than a B against targets that don't negate it. Knauf is very takeable here.
I didn't do the maff, but I'll take your word :) MSV 2 is probably what makes them so attractive to me. With cheap smoke support, you could take out many threats preemptively and have a strong answer to Camo.
Against a Q-Drone under 32" Knauf gets a 50/30 (to wound, to be wounded) while the Brawler gets 41/35. This is because Knauf has a 20% higher chance per shot of negating a Q-Drone success down to crit chance. The ability to smoke helps the Brawler trump serious ARO threats like a Q-Drone giving them an advantage. But a lot of ARO threats are linked giving them SS2 and smoke can't be used. This gives Knauf a raw stat advantage but something more important: Knauf is much more free to both deploy and move around without needing to keep a link around him. This drastically increases the chance that you can deploy out of their range to make use of the MSR. Related he can more easily deploy to take advantage of Low Vis zones. He can also be held in reserve deployment . They both have a lot of advantages for different things.
Although I wouldn't suggest either for link breaking unless you can get out of range. All my experience is from Intruder MSR (who is often effectively the same) and a lot of links inc. Djanbazan.
